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re: Is it just me or does it seem like Stoney Brook has more TALENT?

Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8276 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:34 pm to
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Based on what I'm seeing, LSU needs to hire SB's hitting coach away from them.


That one SB player was standing almost right on the plate from the right handed side. He's lucky somebody with serious velocity like Gausman hasn't drilled him pretty good on an inside pitch. I noticed several of the SB players were very aggressive standing right on top of the plate.
Posted by tigertalkster
Member since Dec 2009
644 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:37 pm to
It's baseball anybody can win one game as a matter of fact anybody can win 2-3 and guess what it doesn't mean they out coached you or they are better that's how baseball is Pittsburgh may beat the Yankees 2-3 but if they played a 100 games who do you think would win more often
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11438 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:39 pm to
Watching a replay and wondering, 1-9, wtf you people are talking about? Steroids? Their best hitter is a fairly skinny dude... only Carmona is a big guy, and he is normal.

You people sound like you haven't actually seen this team.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:48 pm to
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Can't let a team hang around because of mistakes running the bases.


I bet THEY are kicking themselves for letting US hang around. We rarely had base runners. They dominated us, but I'm proud of the way we hung in there.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11438 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:49 pm to
Bowtie in tha house.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93810 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:53 pm to
i agree completely ... both teams had their opportunities, but only one team gets to bat last ;)
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:56 pm to
Carmona is a beast. That guy is amazing at the plate. Switch hitter. Just drives the ball.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 11:00 pm to
Manieri has done a good job.

He can't help a freshmen can't lay down a bunt to save his life. I mean, if we got down a bunt we'd have been 2/3 with one out. Instead the guy whiffs.

I've been critical of Mainieri but he isn't out there executing. He's made some good calls but this team just doesn't have quality sticks 1-9 and they lack depth as we saw today once they started pinch running and making substitutions.
Posted by NOLAeer
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2006
144 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:21 am to
even though i am a wvu fan in football, i follow LSU a bit in baseball(live in new orleans). I dont recall them being this weak with bat much in the past.

guys starting with poor batting averages. That is not typical of a top LSU team. LSU does have good pitching.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:21 am to
no they do not have more overall talent
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32455 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:55 am to
Their hitters are better than ours, hands down. Truth hurts but keepin it real.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50419 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:11 am to
Yes. They do.

The MLB draft tells the tale as well.

I know I'm going to get ripped for this, but I don't care.

LSU fans should be kissing PM's feet for the job he's done with this team. We have 3-4 solid hitters and that's it. They've got 7-8.

They are light years ahead of us at the plate as well.

For those saying our bullpen is ahead of theirs:

Did they not score runs on our top two relievers, one of which was a towering HR?

Yes, yes they did.

If LSU makes it to Omaha with this lineup, PM and ALL of his assistants (yes Rantards, Javi included), should get raises.

PS - Before you idiots question my fandom, this ins't a knock on this team, at all. There are several other teams we have beaten with more talent this year as well: USC and UF, just to name two. Again, this is a comparison to SB.
Posted by TemplarTheSaint
The Vatican
Member since Oct 2011
704 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:13 am to
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quote: this isn't a typical LSU team talent wise.


quote:

quote: PM might have done one of the better coaching jobs in LSU baseball history to get this far with this team.


Sorry, gathering and developing talent are 2 of the major aspects of being a great College Baseball Coach. Short of pitching (Alan Dunn's responsibility), CPM has been sorely deficient. Oh, and his in game management has been questionable at best as of late.
Posted by TemplarTheSaint
The Vatican
Member since Oct 2011
704 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:19 am to
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LSU fans should be kissing PM's feet for the job he's done with this team. We have 3-4 solid hitters and that's it. They've got 7-8.


So we rip the lips off of the most successful Football coach in LSU History for winning without having a QB that can throw away trash, but give this guy a hug for not recruiting and developing one of the 3 basic fundamentals (hitting) of baseball?

Not me. Alan Dunn deserves the keys to the vault. The rest, including CPM should be put on probation......
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50419 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:19 am to
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Oh, and his in game management has been questionable at best as of late.


Lame.

PM has made ONE mistake in the past month or so that has stood out: Leaving Eades in too long last Sunday.

Other than that, he's been great going through this roster making moves, especially when you consider injuries, which is the main reason you have Katz in CF in the 12th inning, and Arby Fields as an every day player right now.

There is a LOOOOOONG list of moves PM has made that have worked beautifully to get this team this far.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:21 am to
I am confused. I thought overall talent includes pitching.

Stony Brook does not have near the amount of talent pitching wise LSU has.

So LSU has 4 legit hitters and they have what 7? The amount of pitching depth LSU has is far superior.

So Stony Brook's closer who is projected their best overall pitching talent sure did look like shite against LSU's non talented hitters. It sure helps playing against a bunch of yankee nobodies. Again I agree they are legit but it's easy to inflate numbers against nobody for the entire regular season.

We'll see who has more talent when this is all said and done on the field.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:22 am to
LSU just threw their majority of the season #3 against their #1 and the game is tied, no?

Posted by TemplarTheSaint
The Vatican
Member since Oct 2011
704 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:25 am to
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PM has made ONE mistake in the past month or so that has stood out: Leaving Eades in too long last Sunday.


I can name 3 in the last 1 1/2 games. Not bunting Katz on Sunday against Oregon St, replacing Fields (best bunter on team) with T Moore and asking him to bunt, then pulling that bonehead hit and run with a left handed batter leaving Foster dead in the crosshairs are 3 within 9 innings of each other.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126969 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:54 am to
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does it seem like Stoney Brook has more TALENT?
So if LSU goes to Omaha it's strictly because of great coaching???
Posted by Fabius
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
458 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:55 am to
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He can't help a freshmen can't lay down a bunt to save his life. I mean, if we got down a bunt we'd have been 2/3 with one out. Instead the guy whiffs.


This is coaching. Bunting is one of the easiest baseball skills to learn. It is basically catching the ball, but with the bat in your hand. If you can catch a pitch thrown at you, you can usually bunt it if you are using the right technique.

Don't know what Manieri does, but I had coaches at much lower levels who started every spring training with bunting drills. Most players don't like bunting practice, so the motivation was no player could take batting practice until they successfully laid down 5 or more bunts in a row. Miss one, start over. Bunts had to be the location called.

Some coaches didn't do that and thought bunting practice wasn't as important as batting practice. They tended to be less successful because they also put less emphasis on other fundamentals, like situational awareness, base running, stance, footwork, etc.

When you see a team that can't bunt and makes boneheaded mistakes on the base paths, that is usually a sign of a coach who is not emphasizing those fundamentals, because those are skills that can be taught.
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 8:57 am
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