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re: Cris Carter admits to placing bounties on players throughout his career
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:06 pm to THRILLHO
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:06 pm to THRILLHO
Indeed.
The media is using the term bounty to mean both pay-for-performance and pay-to-injure.
The difference in severity of these two crimes cannot be overstated.
The media is using the term bounty to mean both pay-for-performance and pay-to-injure.
The difference in severity of these two crimes cannot be overstated.
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:14 pm to Hoodoo Man
Almost makes you wonder if espn is using this angle to switch sides a bit in the coming days and demand evidence from Goodell to keep growing the story.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:32 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
He was talking about his time with Eagles.
I'll never forget the "body bag" game on Monday night football. I was a youngster at the time but I remember the Redskins having two quarterbacks getting hurt in that game and Brian Mitchell, the RB, had to finish the game at QB for the Redskins. I think like 8 or 9 players were injured in that game for the Redskins.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 11:52 pm to THRILLHO
Im just ready for all of this shite to be over
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:41 am to Fun Bunch
wow vikings of all fans can now eat a bowl of dick
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:57 am to St Augustine
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Almost makes you wonder if espn is using this angle to switch sides a bit in the coming days and demand evidence from Goodell to keep growing the story.
The ole wrasslin heel/face switch.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 7:22 am to SaintEB
Well Chris Carter is their boy. Mike and Mike were talking about it this morning. It definitely doesn't hurt our case. At least today they were talking about the culture around the entire league and actually showing replays of hits BY OTHER TEAMS!
The story is also on the homepage of ESPN.com
The story is also on the homepage of ESPN.com
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 7:24 am
Posted on 5/9/12 at 7:37 am to sunnydaze
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Im just ready for all of this shite to be over
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:15 am to LooseCannon22282
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I'll never forget the "body bag" game on Monday night football. I was a youngster at the time but I remember the Redskins having two quarterbacks getting hurt in that game and Brian Mitchell, the RB, had to finish the game at QB for the Redskins. I think like 8 or 9 players were injured in that game for the Redskins.
You are the only other person I've seen say this. I remember the game. The eagles were bragging about it afterwards. I remember the league saying something about stop talking about it but this was when sports got about 10 seconds on the morning news.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:39 am to chris44gwlsu
From April:
quote:
Carter, the wide receiver who played 16 pro seasons, said on ESPN’s NFL Live that Williams’ indefinite suspension should be extended to a permanent ban.
“I believe that Gregg Williams, he shouldn’t be able to coach football any more, and the reason why is because we have given him our best athletes,” Carter said, via ESPN spokesman Bill Hofheimer. “We have given him the best athletes to coach in the NFL for the last 16 years and he has taught them the worst tactics that you can teach a football player. So, I believe the only penalty that would suffice for this type of crime: he shouldn’t be able to coach any more. It is a privilege for us to be able to play football, and a privilege to play in the NFL, and he has taken the last 15, 16 years of his career, and he has decided to do that with it. I believe that Roger Goodell, his penalty should be: he shouldn’t be able to coach in the NFL any more.”
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:43 am to LooseCannon22282
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I'll never forget the "body bag" game on Monday night football. I was a youngster at the time but I remember the Redskins having two quarterbacks getting hurt in that game and Brian Mitchell, the RB, had to finish the game at QB for the Redskins. I think like 8 or 9 players were injured in that game for the Redskins.
Loose... Could you drop me a note to admin@ibleedcrimsonred.com?
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:23 am to Fun Bunch
He sounded full of shite this morning on M+M. First he said Romanowski would talk shite during warmups, then later said not during warmups. He was making no sense at all.
One of 2 things here:
1. CC never offered bounties and is trying to sound tough/ or side with the players
2. He did offer bounties, but is trying to cover up any real specifics and got twisted up.
One of 2 things here:
1. CC never offered bounties and is trying to sound tough/ or side with the players
2. He did offer bounties, but is trying to cover up any real specifics and got twisted up.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:47 am to Fun Bunch
Couldn't wait to come on here and see how you guys misinterpreted his words.
If you watch the whole thing - he actually draws a clear distinction between "pay for protection" that he says he did vs. "pay for cart offs" like the Saints are accused of.
Watch the whole video - you won't call him a supporter then!
If you watch the whole thing - he actually draws a clear distinction between "pay for protection" that he says he did vs. "pay for cart offs" like the Saints are accused of.
Watch the whole video - you won't call him a supporter then!
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:48 am to DoubleDown
Oh? And who were the ones that got "carted off"? And therefore, who got paid?
(Since you know so much about what the Saints actually did.)
(Since you know so much about what the Saints actually did.)
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:49 am to DoubleDown
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he actually draws a clear distinction between "pay for protection" that he says he did vs. "pay for cart offs" like the Saints are accused of
The intent is exactly the same, so no, I don't see any distinction.
Paying to injure a guy under the guise of protection doesn't make it any more acceptable.
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 10:50 am
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:50 am to DoubleDown
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Couldn't wait to come on here and see how you guys misinterpreted his words.
Awww...that's cute.
Question though: how to you pay someone for protection on a football field?
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:52 am to Me
Is a terrorist who commits the act of killing/ injuring people different than the terrorist who gets caught beforehand?
You're trying to distinguish guilt based on whether or not anyone was injured rather than establishing guilt that the system was in place. Clearly most players either A) elected not to do it or B) weren't very good at it.
But don't argue A/B points - you should be trying to establish the so called evidence the NFL has of the system being in place.
ETA:
You didn't watch the whole video. The intent was NOT the same. Paying to have someone watch your back is different than targetting a QB or RB which Greg Williams is recorded saying.
Argue with me all you want. Doesn't make you/it any less wrong.
You're trying to distinguish guilt based on whether or not anyone was injured rather than establishing guilt that the system was in place. Clearly most players either A) elected not to do it or B) weren't very good at it.
But don't argue A/B points - you should be trying to establish the so called evidence the NFL has of the system being in place.
ETA:
quote:
The intent is exactly the same, so no, I don't see any distinction.
Paying to injure a guy under the guise of protection doesn't make it any more acceptable
You didn't watch the whole video. The intent was NOT the same. Paying to have someone watch your back is different than targetting a QB or RB which Greg Williams is recorded saying.
Argue with me all you want. Doesn't make you/it any less wrong.
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 10:55 am
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:53 am to DoubleDown
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Couldn't wait to come on here and see how you guys misinterpreted his words.
If you watch the whole thing - he actually draws a clear distinction between "pay for protection" that he says he did vs. "pay for cart offs" like the Saints are accused of.
Watch the whole video - you won't call him a supporter then!
He specifically said he wanted certain players OUT OF THE GAME.
So...what's the difference?
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:56 am to DoubleDown
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Is a terrorist who commits the act different than the terrorist who gets caught beforehand?
You're trying to distinguish guilt based on whether or not anyone was injured rather than establishing guilt that the system was in place. Clearly most players either A) elected not to do it or B) weren't very good at it.
But don't argue A/B points - you should be trying to establish the so called evidence the NFL has of the system being in place.
The very thing you're arguing, Carter paying to protect, is basically the "the terrorist who gets caught beforehand"
You just trapped yourself there.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:57 am to DoubleDown
quote:
Argue with me all you want. Doesn't make you/it any less wrong.
Same goes for you, do you not realize that? LOL
quote:
The intent was NOT the same
The intent was to take a player out of a game, and that player would be rewarded by being paid for doing so.
The intent was EXACTLY the same.
quote:
Paying to have someone watch your back is different than targetting a QB or RB which Greg Williams is recorded saying
Paying to injure someone is the same as paying to injure someone, no?
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