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Tchefuntce River
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:10 pm
Has anybody been to the mouth of the Tchefuncte at the lake recently? I know I read articles about the sandbar and beach being restored and was wondering if that has started or been completed yet? Thanks
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:12 pm to Deaux-nut
I was out there 2 weekends ago, and It looked bad. It was the first time I had seen it since it pretty much completely eroded away. So I'm going to say it has not even stared.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:26 pm to Deaux-nut
I grew up out there, sad to here its gone to shite
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:27 pm to Deaux-nut
Nothing had started as of last weekend. Water was high as hell from last week's rains and the asphalt road had 2 to 4 inches of water over it all the way to the boat launches.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:32 pm to KingRanch
used to camp out there while growing up, it's a shame to see it in the condition it is now.
This post was edited on 4/2/12 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 4/2/12 at 7:09 pm to Deaux-nut
To me, the biggest problem there is that the water is too shallow to get anywhere near the beach. When the lake is low enough to expose the sandy beach, you have to anchor 100 yards out, I wish they would dredge that area. In fact, I wish they would go ahead and dredge the channel south of the lighthouse, it gets a little thin there sometimes.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 7:18 pm to ed3303
quote:
water is too shallow to get anywhere near the beach
the backside of the island has some fairly deep water
Posted on 4/2/12 at 7:28 pm to GEAUXT
The island is gone, the backside is the only part of the beach left.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 8:19 pm to Deaux-nut
Nothing physical has started on the restoration as far as I can tell. (I'm sure there's a pile of planning and permitting that has to happen before any restoration takes place. I'm not trying to make sound like NOTHING is happening.)
To the poster concerned about the water depth: the inlet between the east bank of the river and where the peninsula used to be is about 6' or 8' deep in the middle. The main channel between the west bank/boat launch side and the old peninsula is about 20' deep. (Or maybe my depth finder needs to be replaced!). The is, or was, substantial shoaling on the west side of the peninsula about 80' or 100' into the river.
To the poster concerned about the water depth: the inlet between the east bank of the river and where the peninsula used to be is about 6' or 8' deep in the middle. The main channel between the west bank/boat launch side and the old peninsula is about 20' deep. (Or maybe my depth finder needs to be replaced!). The is, or was, substantial shoaling on the west side of the peninsula about 80' or 100' into the river.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:33 pm to White Roach
Yea a lot of folks don't realize that the old "beach" shoal is still there, but really is a shoal/sandbar now instead of the cool beach we used to have. Saw a guy hit it pretty hard doing about 15mph or so a few weeks back.....knew he was an idiot before he hit that considering that's a no wake zone. Plenty deep if you approach from the north, most people using the beach area near the no wake sign now. There was a story in the Times Picayune in Feb or so talking about the proposed plans.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:40 pm to Tigah D
Proposed plans are:
Redredge the mouth and part of the shoals in the lake to rebuild the beach.
At that same time there is going to be a rock wall placed at the south edge of the channel that turns to the right when you exit the river. Its going to curve with the channel and go far enough to cover the mouth from waves. Should be hell of lot easier picking up when you get a south wind.
Lastly they will be taking grown cypress trees and placing them I believe on the south side of the rocks. There actually used to be cypress trees out there, I recall on the shoal at the mouth there being stumps.
These are the plans from the Tchefuncte River Foundation encase anyone was wondering, when they start I haven't the slightest idea.
Redredge the mouth and part of the shoals in the lake to rebuild the beach.
At that same time there is going to be a rock wall placed at the south edge of the channel that turns to the right when you exit the river. Its going to curve with the channel and go far enough to cover the mouth from waves. Should be hell of lot easier picking up when you get a south wind.
Lastly they will be taking grown cypress trees and placing them I believe on the south side of the rocks. There actually used to be cypress trees out there, I recall on the shoal at the mouth there being stumps.
These are the plans from the Tchefuncte River Foundation encase anyone was wondering, when they start I haven't the slightest idea.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:42 pm to Tigah D
I think that the old beach/shoal/sandbar is what I was talking about. I am not from that area, so I was not aware that you could approach from the North and navigate between the shoal and the current beach. I tend to be over cautious and when the water starts shoaling, I stop my forward progress. How wide do you suppose the channel is between the old beach and the new beach?
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:45 pm to ed3303
Spent a many of day on that river and beach, prob going to hit up TRivers next week when I head back home.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:45 pm to ed3303
If you approach from the north its a pocket not a channel that is 6-8 feet deep.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:51 pm to White Roach
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:44 am to White Roach
Seems like the Corps is the one holding it up. We have had to mess with them logging in wetter areas, and they are a huge PITA. My boss says permits and all take a minimum of 2 years so he wasnt screwing with tidal waterways anymore. BTW these were dried up inland waterways. You have to apply, they review the application, turn it over to the engineers, you get put in a line with all other candidates, they review it, and it has to be signed off on.
To get the engineers to look at it takes at least 1.5yrs. For governmental requests I'd expect the red tape to be 10ft thick
To get the engineers to look at it takes at least 1.5yrs. For governmental requests I'd expect the red tape to be 10ft thick
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:52 am to GREENHEAD22
T-Rivers had a for sale sign on it a couple of weeks ago and it looked closed, no boats docked in front.
Posted on 4/3/12 at 9:00 am to Hammertime
On another note:
"Over here we want to have a boardwalk with interpretive areas. And over there will be another observation area.”
What the hell do they need a boardwalk for, and wtf is an interpretive area? Observation area?
But it’s also the first part of the foundation’s effort to create a shoreline park and nature area on about 150 acres of pristine marshland bounded by the river to the west and the lake to the south
Then, “We want to have the smallest footprint possible,” said Charlie Thomason
150ac is considered a small footprint nowadays? I mean damn, these jerk offs dont think it would be easier to just fix the 1/2ac spot from before and add a break-wall in front of it? Seems like some hippie mumbo jumbo is what is stopping them from proceeding
“There’s so much we can do here. This place is so beautiful,’’ Thomason said. “Look, these are wildlife trails. And there are live oaks out here. Live oaks! Getting to it means removing the invasive tallow trees and some yaupon bushes, as well as patches of St. Augustine and centipede grasses and a “lot of briar,” Thomason said. A “flash burn” will knock down much of the vegetation, he said, and rakes and hoes will be used to take out the brush by hand.“We’ll add some roseau cane and incorporate species that are native to the wetlands and will have value for wildlife like deer, humming birds, turtles,” Thomason said.
Sounds like he really knows what he is talking about here Welcome to tallow tree city
On another note, he said that funding was what was holding them back. $20,000 worth is pretty easy to come up with. I mean damn, they could do an Abita Beer fundraiser and make some from selling beers. Mr. Blossman, where are you on that? I am all for fixing up the beach, it just doesnt have to be such a drawn-out process. All of this other BS is what is slowing them down. Dredge sand from main channel, dump it out on former beach, get some rocks and put them in front of the beach. I dont want little field trip kids coming out there when I am trying to funnel beers and pee in the water.
"Over here we want to have a boardwalk with interpretive areas. And over there will be another observation area.”
What the hell do they need a boardwalk for, and wtf is an interpretive area? Observation area?
But it’s also the first part of the foundation’s effort to create a shoreline park and nature area on about 150 acres of pristine marshland bounded by the river to the west and the lake to the south
Then, “We want to have the smallest footprint possible,” said Charlie Thomason
150ac is considered a small footprint nowadays? I mean damn, these jerk offs dont think it would be easier to just fix the 1/2ac spot from before and add a break-wall in front of it? Seems like some hippie mumbo jumbo is what is stopping them from proceeding
“There’s so much we can do here. This place is so beautiful,’’ Thomason said. “Look, these are wildlife trails. And there are live oaks out here. Live oaks! Getting to it means removing the invasive tallow trees and some yaupon bushes, as well as patches of St. Augustine and centipede grasses and a “lot of briar,” Thomason said. A “flash burn” will knock down much of the vegetation, he said, and rakes and hoes will be used to take out the brush by hand.“We’ll add some roseau cane and incorporate species that are native to the wetlands and will have value for wildlife like deer, humming birds, turtles,” Thomason said.
Sounds like he really knows what he is talking about here Welcome to tallow tree city
On another note, he said that funding was what was holding them back. $20,000 worth is pretty easy to come up with. I mean damn, they could do an Abita Beer fundraiser and make some from selling beers. Mr. Blossman, where are you on that? I am all for fixing up the beach, it just doesnt have to be such a drawn-out process. All of this other BS is what is slowing them down. Dredge sand from main channel, dump it out on former beach, get some rocks and put them in front of the beach. I dont want little field trip kids coming out there when I am trying to funnel beers and pee in the water.
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 9:02 am
Posted on 4/3/12 at 9:27 am to Hammertime
I heard that T-rivers has been sold
it's turning into a crab depot, where the crabbers will sell there catch and the depot will ship them to wholesalers
at least that's what I've heard
kind of sad to lose a bar in that area
it's turning into a crab depot, where the crabbers will sell there catch and the depot will ship them to wholesalers
at least that's what I've heard
kind of sad to lose a bar in that area
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