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re: The big Elephant in the room
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:51 pm to CrimsonChin
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:51 pm to CrimsonChin
Making the statement that we didn't want to play Bana again is wrong.
Bama was the second best team before the game.
Which is who true LSU and football fans wanted to see play.
Any LSU fan that wants a cake walk is a joke.
Rick Flair said to be the man you have to beat the man.
Congrats Bama. You played a flawless game.
Is is hard to swallow yes.
But frick the excuses.
Bama was the second best team before the game.
Which is who true LSU and football fans wanted to see play.
Any LSU fan that wants a cake walk is a joke.
Rick Flair said to be the man you have to beat the man.
Congrats Bama. You played a flawless game.
Is is hard to swallow yes.
But frick the excuses.
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:54 pm to NBamaAlum
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If the guys can't get up for whomever they are playing in the BCSNCG...ya'll have bigger problems than messed up QB play.
The fact remains that the "Game of the Century" was nullified arbitrarily by media hype. That "Bama was handed an undeserved invitation to the game is indisputable and beyond question by anyone with an IQ >80. The fact that 'Bama won does not justify the decision to all them to play unless you endorse "The end justifies the means."
I for one do not. LSU had nothing to prove by beating 'Bama again in the same year. Why should they have to do that while 'Bama could lose at home and then claim to be champions by beating LSU later on. It defies any sense of what is moral and just-the kind of things that many supporters of 'Bama athletics find incomprehensible.
Further, the silly TideFans board had the courage to ban all LSU fans after the Tide lost to the lowly Tigers in its own back yard because the gentle sensibilities of the "faithful" could not brook facing the end of the ('Bama) universe. Yet here you are blathering on about playing the best. What nonsense. The Tide was the best because the ratings said so.
If the other one loss school had been UT or OU or even tOSU, then the gumps would have been bumped from a date with LSU. That is the truth.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:54 pm to byubengalboy
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a real man with a "sense of pride" knows full well that a mulligan is "nothing more than a lie."
Alright.
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you won nothing
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you were "given" multiple shots to beat LSU at the expense of a team with a better resume and the credibility of the game.
Given? shite, tell that to the teams that got steamrolled playing UA.
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kiss my fricking arse and put your "sense of pride" up yours.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:54 pm to ApexTiger
The only thing unfair is giving a great defense a second shot and 6 weeks to game plan for a limited offense. LSU's simplistic offense was bound to get embarrassed by a great defense that was rested and ready and familiar with what LSU does. This is LSU's flaw though, not Bama's fault
If LSU would have just tried something different, Bama's defense may have been less dominant. But Les and his stubborn way of winning is limited when he matches up against equally talented and well coached/prepared teams. I only hope that the simplistic offense is a reflection on limitations at QB and not LM's philosophy on offense.
BUMMER!
If LSU would have just tried something different, Bama's defense may have been less dominant. But Les and his stubborn way of winning is limited when he matches up against equally talented and well coached/prepared teams. I only hope that the simplistic offense is a reflection on limitations at QB and not LM's philosophy on offense.
BUMMER!
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:56 pm to NBamaAlum
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but if I am an LSU player, why would I want to play Alabama a 2nd time for all the marbles?
Because you have a sense of pride and want to play the best?
possibly for some.. but I'd say ego for most...
emotion overrides logic
as the songs says "fools rush in where wise men never go"
it was an ambush...and we knew it.
unfortunately, we could do nothing about it but act as if we liked it.
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If LSU would have just tried something different, Bama's defense may have been less dominant. But Les and his stubborn way of winning is limited when he matches up against equally talented and well coached/prepared teams.
you are 100 % correct.. the baffling thing is that if Jl OR Mett would have come in, just that action would have forced Saban to back away some due to the threat of a pass, which he totally disregarded with JJ
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:58 pm to White Tiger
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Further, the silly TideFans board had the courage to ban all LSU fans after the Tide lost to the lowly Tigers in its own back yard because the gentle sensibilities of the "faithful" could not brook facing the end of the ('Bama) universe. Yet here you are blathering on about playing the best. What nonsense. The Tide was the best because the ratings said so.
If the other one loss school had been UT or OU or even tOSU, then the gumps would have been bumped from a date with LSU. That is the truth.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:01 pm to White Tiger
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That "Bama was handed an undeserved invitation to the game is indisputable and beyond question by anyone with an IQ >80.
A lot of people would disagree with you on that.
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LSU had nothing to prove by beating 'Bama again in the same year
That they could go 14-0, beat what everyone in La. refers to as "media darling" UA twice, and that they deserved the crystal ball.
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Why should they have to do that while 'Bama could lose at home and then claim to be champions by beating LSU later on
If Nov. 5th would have been played in BR, and LSU closed out the season like they did, after losing in overtime 9-6...would they have deserved a shot. Be honest.
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It defies any sense of what is moral and just-the kind of things that many supporters of 'Bama athletics find incomprehensible.
Good Lord. We're talking about football here. "Moral and just"?
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Further, the silly TideFans board had the courage to ban all LSU fans after the Tide lost to the lowly Tigers in its own back yard because the gentle sensibilities of the "faithful" could not brook facing the end of the ('Bama) universe
I don't go to UA boards. Full of retards.
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Yet here you are blathering on about playing the best
TD is the best. It allows semi-intelligent discourse and dick jokes all at the same time.
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What nonsense. The Tide was the best because the ratings said so.
And the BCS formula.
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If the other one loss school had been UT or OU or even tOSU, then the gumps would have been bumped from a date with LSU. That is the truth.
We'll never know, I guess. All we can deal in is what Joe Friday asked for..."Just the facts.."
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:05 pm to Lafayetiger
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Making the statement that we didn't want to play Bana again is wrong.
Oh Baloney
I didn't know any LSU fans that really wanted to play Alabama a second time
They said, "it' is what it is"..."Well be special to beat them again'
"and really suck really bad if we lose"
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:09 pm to TigerJeff
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Further, the silly TideFans board had the courage to ban all LSU fans after the Tide lost to the lowly Tigers in its own back yard because the gentle sensibilities of the "faithful" could not brook facing the end of the ('Bama) universe. Yet here you are blathering on about playing the best. What nonsense. The Tide was the best because the ratings said so.
If the other one loss school had been UT or OU or even tOSU, then the gumps would have been bumped from a date with LSU. That is the truth.
Yes...They backed in and got lucky in doing so.
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:14 pm to Crow Pie
One could argue LSU has "backed" into national title games before so that argument is pointless to me
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:18 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
A lot of what you say is true. Bobby Bowden said practically the exact same thing on an interview on Miami radio last week.
He said in 1996, FSU did not want to play UF again. He said he had to act like he was happy to play them again, but he was not. He said he would have rather have played any team in the country other than UF. He made a lot of the same points you did. UF was mad and had a month to practice harder because they were so mad and upset. He said there was just no way for FSU to feel the same after they had already beaten UF and it was a big advantage to UF. [/quote]
I sat next to Coach Bowden at the game. He told me the same thing basically. He also said this is essentially the difference between a professional and college kid. They are not motivated the same way and that's what grown ups like us forget. We were competing against bama and a kids psyche! He knew in the first quarter what was happening and why.
He said in 1996, FSU did not want to play UF again. He said he had to act like he was happy to play them again, but he was not. He said he would have rather have played any team in the country other than UF. He made a lot of the same points you did. UF was mad and had a month to practice harder because they were so mad and upset. He said there was just no way for FSU to feel the same after they had already beaten UF and it was a big advantage to UF. [/quote]
I sat next to Coach Bowden at the game. He told me the same thing basically. He also said this is essentially the difference between a professional and college kid. They are not motivated the same way and that's what grown ups like us forget. We were competing against bama and a kids psyche! He knew in the first quarter what was happening and why.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:20 pm to NBamaAlum
Already beat the best (Nov 5)...next conference champ up...
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:26 pm to tduecen
Beside LSU Fans, most people in the country felt this way. LSU got penalized for beating them in T-town. BAMA & others ESPN & some analyst began politicking for this after BAMA's loss 11-5-11. LSU should have equally lobbied against a repeat.
Miles didnt have to say he would be honored to p;ay them again, the same night. Stupid answer, laugh and say yeah next year in T.S.
Miles didnt have to say he would be honored to p;ay them again, the same night. Stupid answer, laugh and say yeah next year in T.S.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:27 pm to Geauxtro
The original poster is spot on.
These Bama fans posting here even realize there is some "uncleanliness" to what went down, Otherwise they'd be on their own board (the one btw that banned LSU fans after the first game) celebrating the crystal rather than being over here trying to convince LSU fans that what happened was right. It "was what it was", but wrong.
These Bama fans posting here even realize there is some "uncleanliness" to what went down, Otherwise they'd be on their own board (the one btw that banned LSU fans after the first game) celebrating the crystal rather than being over here trying to convince LSU fans that what happened was right. It "was what it was", but wrong.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:31 pm to tduecen
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One could argue LSU has "backed" into national title games before so that argument is pointless to me
LSU won the SEC Conferrence Championship game in 2007 And was the best 2 loss team that won the final game...Kansas and OSU were the only other BCS 1 loss teams and Kansas lost the big12 CCG.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:32 pm to Geauxtro
Do these LSU fans that continue to complain for having to play UA really understand how stupid that they come across to those who did not have a dog in the fight? Kudos to the LSU fans that man up and accept the final result. When a play off is started [and will be as a result of this year] LSU will likely be in a BSCCG across from a SEC team [maybe not UA} then you will realize how stupid you sounded to others this year. You lost to the team that lost to the NUMBER ONE TEAM in overtime. You wanted to play the team that lost to a 5-7 team in overtime shame on you----just "MAN UP" and beat them in Baton rouge in Nov.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:34 pm to tduecen
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One could argue LSU has "backed" into national title games before so that argument is pointless to me
tduecen....I disagree here.... In 03 we were a one loss SEC Champ. In 07' we were a 2 loss SEC Champ....IMO a conference champ doesn't back in....
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:36 pm to ApexTiger
quote:You're entitled to your opinion, but no. It's not.
I just think that's the real underlying issue of such a lopsided game.
A team on the precipice of a historic, all-time season, with a chance to be in the discussion of the greatest teams in CFB history, playing in its home state against a heated rival, and a chance to go undefeated for the first time in forever, and who had steamrolled every team it faced previously save for one ...
... well, if they were whining about playing Bama again, perhaps they didn't deserve to be there in the first place.
That's not why they lost.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:39 pm to ApexTiger
At apex tiger:
bullshite. I live in Houston , travel all over the US and call on a shitload of LSU alumni.
Almost all wanted to play Bama. The people who didn't want to play Bama are the "wanna be" LSU fans who buy 1 ticket to a game or watch on TV. They go to academy and buy a hat but don't spend a goddamn dime on tuition or help out the athletic association.
bullshite. I live in Houston , travel all over the US and call on a shitload of LSU alumni.
Almost all wanted to play Bama. The people who didn't want to play Bama are the "wanna be" LSU fans who buy 1 ticket to a game or watch on TV. They go to academy and buy a hat but don't spend a goddamn dime on tuition or help out the athletic association.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:39 pm to ApexTiger
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It wasn't fair that they should have had to, and many talking heads and college fans I know said as much repeatedly... Not many people liked the rematch.
The BCS isn't supposed to be "fair" - its suppose to match the #1 and #2 teams in the nation in the final game.
Does anyone doubt that Alabama and LSU are the top two teams in the country? I don't. The BCS served its purpose exactly as advertised in this case.
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but if I am an LSU player, why would I want to play Alabama a 2nd time for all the marbles?
If you want to be the National Champion you have to be ready to beat ANY team.
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 8:41 pm
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