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Need help with a roux

Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:01 pm
Posted by tigertail34
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2004
926 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:01 pm
I tried using a recipe last night that called for 1 cup of oil & 1 cup of flour. Could never get it to turn dark brown.

I have searched and searched...can find a lot of instruction on HOW to make a roux, but nothing that tells you quantities of flour & oil.

I am using 1 bell pepper, 1 onion, 1.5lbs of shrimp and 1 pound of crabmeat and then the suggested seasonings.

any help is appreciated.
Posted by PBeard
DC
Member since Oct 2007
5900 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:05 pm to
I used bacon fat yesterday on a duck, andouille, and oyster gumbo.

LINK

If you have a cast iron pot, you can make a roux in 10 minutes because it gets hotter faster. Your veggies will stop the cooking process.
Posted by skidmark
Member since Feb 2008
365 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:09 pm to
i use a ratio with less oil than flower. 3/4 cup oil, per cup flower. It turns out pretty dark. Takes me about thirty minutes with cast iron, but I keep it low and slow b/c I'm scared to burn it .
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:10 pm
Posted by tigeryat
God's Country
Member since Oct 2005
2918 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:11 pm to
You probably don't have your fire hot enough.
Posted by tigertail34
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2004
926 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:14 pm to
what heat do you cook it on?

i am using a cast iron dutch oven
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:18 pm to
It sounds as if you are making an etouffee. If that is the case you don't want a DARK roux, but rather something closer to a peanut butter light roux. Regardless of the end product, that is a lot of roux for one pound of crab.


ETA, cast iron set on hades hot, dark brown roux in ten or so minutes while stirring like a mad man.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

hades hot, dark brown roux in ten or so minutes while stirring like a mad man.
that scares me bbbaaaaadd... plus, it leaves no time for George Dickel..
Posted by HurricaneDunc
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
10472 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

1 cup of oil & 1 cup of flour


I used this exact recipe for my turkey gumbo. Used a cast iron skillet on medium heat. Took about 45 minutes to get dark brown.

eta: constant stirring also
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:54 pm
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5358 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:51 pm to
MAKE ROUX Adjust oven rack to lowest position and heat oven to 350 degrees. Toast ¾ cup flour in Dutch oven on stovetop over medium heat, stirring constantly, until just beginning to brown, about 5 minutes. Off heat, whisk in oil until smooth. Cover, transfer pot to oven, and cook until mixture is deep brown and fragrant, about 45 minutes.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:32 pm to
You never heard of SHOTS? There is ample time for at least two. By the time stock is being added you are able to go for the third one.
Posted by tigertail34
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2004
926 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:11 pm to
thanks for all the quick input and help.

roux is done and the gumbo is on the stove!

ended up using 3/4 oil & 1C flour, stirred on high heat for 40 minutes and stopped when it was chocolate color.

much better experience than last night.
Posted by TorNation
Sulphur, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2872 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:13 pm to
Just curious what do you think the problem was last night when you tried making the roux?
Posted by tigertail34
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2004
926 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:18 pm to
i was looking at a recipe that called for 1C flour & 1C oil and to cook on low heat. Sat there stirring for 1.5 hours and never got past the color of peanut butter. Then i had too much quantity of bell pepper/celery & onion. when i added it, it did not coat and of that one bit. Today i backed the quantity down and it came out really well. I am watching it now...may have put a little too much okra in it. its a little thick, waiting to see if it loosens up a bit. may add some more chicken stock.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12817 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:37 pm to
It's supposed to be equal parts by weight, but I just eyeball it.
Posted by mgross80
port allen
Member since Nov 2007
61 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:14 pm to
Cook roux in the microwave equal parts flour and oil, cover microwave safe bowl with saran wrap and cook for three minutes. Uncover and stir, put back in for minute and a half and repeat process until u get desired color. Be careful when uncovering will supply lots of steam.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12817 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 6:16 pm to
Lotta cheatin arse roux cookers up in ya!
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7531 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:50 am to
I started preheating my oil to 350 before adding the flour. A lot less time having to stir. Always have vegies cut before hand and add when you get to the color you are looking for.
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:55 am to
This, $3.29 at Albertsons

Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14904 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:01 am to
quote:

stirred on high heat for 40 minutes and stopped when it was chocolate color.


you're not doing it right. a roux shouldnt take any longer than 15 minutes. do not start adding flour until oil is at 350. it's just like frying shrimp/fish/etc.. oil gotta be the right temp.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112695 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:18 am to
I make my roux at a lower temp over a longer period of time and alternate stirring with chopping ingredients. IE,
Stir for 20 seconds
Chop onion for 20 seconds
Take a sip of bourbon
Go back to stir and repeat process

In 30 minutes the roux is ready, the veggies and meat are ready and I'm feeling really good.
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