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CP3 won't sign extension with Boston
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:15 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:15 am
The "journalist (aka mouthpiece)" has spoken:
Chris Broussard
Let all the CP3-to-Boston chatter cease. CP will not sign long-term ext with Celtics, according to source close to situation.
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Chris Broussard
Let all the CP3-to-Boston chatter cease. CP will not sign long-term ext with Celtics, according to source close to situation.
LINK
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:24 am to wope
Someone get a list from Maverick Carter and World Wide Wes of exactly which teams CP3 will deem appropriate for an extension.
If that list is just the Lake Show and the Knicks, I'd sit on CP3's rights out of spite because neither has any assets to make it worth the headache of a trade. His arse can leave $30 million on the table to sign with the Knicks as a FA in 2012.
If that list is just the Lake Show and the Knicks, I'd sit on CP3's rights out of spite because neither has any assets to make it worth the headache of a trade. His arse can leave $30 million on the table to sign with the Knicks as a FA in 2012.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:30 am to wope
All this points to his reports being pretty accurate. CP is definitely voicing his opinions. I don't see why the Hornets HAVE to deal with a team CP wants to go to. Seems Demps will have the phones ringing off the hook from every team in the NBA. We can get better than what I am reading. Forget about the Clippers and Knicks. They have nothing. We need a slew of potential or another quality player to be the face of the organization. This has to be helping sell those remaining 300+ season tickets btw...
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:32 am to teke184
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Someone get a list from Maverick Carter and World Wide Wes of exactly which teams CP3 will deem appropriate for an extension.
If that list is just the Lake Show and the Knicks, I'd sit on CP3's rights out of spite because neither has any assets to make it worth the headache of a trade. His arse can leave $30 million on the table to sign with the Knicks as a FA in 2012.
I think his lovefest with the Knicks is extremely overstated. The Knicks is not going to happen, neither is the Lakers. He's basically going to have to go to a lower-tier "contendor" or stick around unless some dumbass like Dolan trades a the pope, Dali Lama, and Amare for him like he is known to do.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:32 am to Jordanreid2000
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Forget about the Clippers
They probably have more to offer than some. Admittedly, I haven't looked closely at their roster and contract situation lately.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:33 am to Jordanreid2000
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Forget about the Clippers and Knicks. They have nothing. We need a slew of potential or another quality player to be the face of the organization. This has to be helping sell those remaining 300+ season tickets btw
Knicks, yeah. Clippers, no. The Clippers have a lot of solid trade assets. The Knicks have no assets or cap room. The Knicks talk is downright silly.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:47 am to Jordanreid2000
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Forget about the Clippers
Yeah as others have said, the Clippers have great trade assets. An unprotected Wolves pick that will probably be a lottery pick, their own 2013 pick, and good young, talented players on cheap contracts mostly.
If CP won't re-sign with one of the most storied franchises of all time, that says something right there. We have no shot.
But I'm glad he doesn't want to go to them. I had nightmares about having to cheer for that POS Rondo bricking shots.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:56 am to Fun Bunch
Starting to think more and more that he is just gonna say F it and sign with the Knicks.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 9:59 am to Fun Bunch
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If CP won't re-sign with one of the most storied franchises of all time, that says something right there.
It says his people are trying to control the process. Melo said at one point last year he thought he'd be a Net, and he said it in a way that made me think he'd have stayed there to get his money. LA and NY are where CP3's agents can make the most money off of him, the last thing they want is a league wide bidding war that could reduce their potential cut of CP3 exploitation. Not to mention the more options Demps has the more leverage he has.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:01 am to wope
Paul to the Lakers with Okafor, for Gasol, a pile of cash, and 2 1st rounders (which are pretty much 2nd rounders).
Amnesty Jack or Ariza, and start over.
They have a decent FA class and some solid players will be cut through amnesty.
Better than getting nothing for him and him playing half-assed all year hurting our team.
Amnesty Jack or Ariza, and start over.
They have a decent FA class and some solid players will be cut through amnesty.
Better than getting nothing for him and him playing half-assed all year hurting our team.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:07 am to Slickback
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Better than getting nothing for him and him playing half-assed all year hurting our team.
Who says we have to play him at all?
I'd hit him in his pride by benching him for the better part of the year, doing the most blatant tank job since the Rockets in '84, probably ensuring that we pick no worse than 4th in 2012.
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 10:08 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:08 am to teke184
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I'd hit him in his pride by benching him for the better part of the year,
then we will always have problems signing free agents. who would want to play on that team?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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then we will always have problems signing free agents. who would want to play on that team?
1. Yes, because NOLA is SUCH a desirable location for FAs anyway.
I'd rather take a stand on principle that will allow the team to build through the draft than let CP3 dictate his trade to teams who have NOTHING that will help the Hornets rebuild.
If CP3 wants out, he wants out. Being a bitch through passive-aggressive demands through the press that he only go to big-market teams with no assets is a non-starter and I'd put my fricking foot down on it.
2. There is no owner in NOLA right now, it's the league.
The league, once the CBA is in place, could do this exact thing as a way to let the players know that there will be no more LBJ / Melo bullshite.
That would be on the other 29 owners, not Demps and NOLA.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:16 am to teke184
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as a way to let the players know that there will be no more LBJ / Melo bullshite.
what did LBJ do? he played out his contract and signed with another team
melo just was GOING to run out his contract and do the same. the other teams just knew he only had a few teams he'd sign with, so that affected his value
what bullshite? they're not slaves or persons with infinite contracts. no team wants to be cleveland, post-lebron
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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what did LBJ do? he played out his contract and signed with another team
It's not the leaving that's the problem as much as how LBJ was playing fantasy GM with the Cavs for the previous few years in public demands for better supporting players, which Gilbert indulged in for him, leaving the Cavs them in a totally fricked position when he left.
Sounds a lot like the massive roster turnovers and bad contracts that NOLA took on to make CP3 happy, IMHO.
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what bullshite? they're not slaves or persons with infinite contracts.
If he wants to play out his contract, he should play out his fricking contract and not have Maverick Carter and World Wide Wes leaking out stories about how he wants to go to LA or New York.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:25 am to teke184
Moral stances are for idiots. No offense.
This is business, for both sides. Its not personal. As SFP said, as much as it sucks, these players aren't slaves.
Once their contract is up, they are free to play wherever they chose.
If we know that he just doesn't want to play for us anymore, hey, its business. We look to maximize our value.
Again, as much as it sucks, he can choose to leak stories to effect the market. He can tell Toronto, you can trade for me, but I'll be playing somewhere else next year, sorry.
It is what it is. Time to suck it up, and explore every avenue for the best deal possible.
This is business, for both sides. Its not personal. As SFP said, as much as it sucks, these players aren't slaves.
Once their contract is up, they are free to play wherever they chose.
If we know that he just doesn't want to play for us anymore, hey, its business. We look to maximize our value.
Again, as much as it sucks, he can choose to leak stories to effect the market. He can tell Toronto, you can trade for me, but I'll be playing somewhere else next year, sorry.
It is what it is. Time to suck it up, and explore every avenue for the best deal possible.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:26 am to teke184
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as much as how LBJ was playing fantasy GM with the Cavs for the previous few years in public demands for better supporting players, which Gilbert indulged in for him, leaving the Cavs them in a totally fricked position when he left.
that's life as an NBA team
look at the celtics. they are a good team, but they'er likely not a title team. and they're fricked for a few years, too
the hawks are similar. the hornets were in the same position a few years ago when we fricked up and signed posey
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If he wants to play out his contract, he should play out his fricking contract and not have Maverick Carter and World Wide Wes leaking out stories about how he wants to go to LA or New York.
and then have you say he's another lebron james and fricked the hornets by giving them no warning?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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and then have you say he's another lebron james and fricked the hornets by giving them no warning?
Im not saying that the players can't do what they want or should be slaves to their current team or anything. But this dictating trades and free agent destinations through WWW and company is pretty shitty and getting annoying.
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:41 am to BeeFense5
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But this dictating trades and free agent destinations through WWW and company is pretty shitty and getting annoying.
Do yourself a favor and stop reading web articles and forums and stop listening to sport talk radio.
This will never change and if it's annoying you that much, you need to stop reading and listening to it.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:42 am to BeeFense5
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Im not saying that the players can't do what they want or should be slaves to their current team or anything. But this dictating trades and free agent destinations through WWW and company is pretty shitty and getting annoying.
THIS.
If he wants out, he should just tell Demps and Monty "I'm out, start planning for life without me" and tell Carter and WWW "start playing footsie with GMs for a FA run."
Planting stories in the press about trades and only going to certain cities annoys the living frick out of me because it is dictating terms to the Hornets and is the exact same shite that derailed most of last season for the Nuggets with all of the Melo mess.
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