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re: WVU was a much better fit than Missouri

Posted on 10/25/11 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by dholjes84
Morgantown, WV
Member since Sep 2011
39 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 5:36 pm to
True college football fans (and any sport for that matter) do not care about...

1. - Academics and the amount of research money the conference can share

2. - TV markets and the amount of money the conference can share

They care about the quality of the product they are watching. SEC should have stayed at 12.

More teams in a conference is like more ice in your beverage.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58133 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 5:43 pm to


so now b/c Missouri is getting into the SEC and WVU isn't you guys are going to say the SEC should have just stayed at 12?


Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

I think what he's saying is that even if Mizzou is thrown in the East, it's a bit strange geographically.


WTH does that matter to an SECW team, or their fans? IDGAF what the travel implications are for the East teams. As for the West teams they can suck it up for one week if it means $4M plus per annum in additional revenue via a new TV contract.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:56 pm to
Concern trolling at its finest.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125480 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:59 pm to
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also, WVU = crappy academics.


this is bullshite, the school takes a hit and gets this false wrap only b/c it is so easy for instate kids to get in. Part of the mission statement is to give every wv native a chance at higher education.

How about people look at the amount of Rhodes Scholars from WVU and the actual rankings of some of the schools programs before bashing the school
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:05 pm to
How about you tell us about your academics so I don't have to look. Compare them Mizzou's while you're at it since they are your competition for the last rose
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

True college football fans do not care about...

WVU

FIFY
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7880 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:36 pm to
These decisions have absolutely nothing to do with academics.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125480 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 9:22 pm to
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How about you tell us about your academics so I don't have to look. Compare them Mizzou's while you're at it since they are your competition for the last rose


i never said its a better school than Mizzou b/c we are not but fact less bashing of WVU as a university is getting old.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 9:25 pm
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 9:51 pm to
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b/c AAU status = big time research $$$

why is this so hard for some of you to understand?


So why is Mizzou middle of the road in the SEC according to the rankings? It's big money I get that and it will be great for the SEC AAU members, but don't see where that is translating into "OMFG" academic ratings.
Posted by StarCityBridge
Member since Sep 2011
12 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:32 pm to
Academics

Missouri #90
WVU #169

Athletic Budget

WVU $58 million
Missouri $53 million

Football Attendance

Missouri 61,540
WVU 56,325

Basketball Attendance

WVU 12,375
Missouri 10,349

Fans

Missouri 1,084,889
WVU 954,403

Value

21. West Virginia $141.2 million
33. Missouri $99.4 million

Merchandise Sales

WVU #15
Missouri #18

Party School

WVU #6
Missouri (not ranked)


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Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:36 pm to
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Party School

WVU #6
Missouri (not ranked)


WAY back in the day (80's) I remember when Playboy had Mizzou #1. Not long after that they went to a dry campus.
Posted by StarCityBridge
Member since Sep 2011
12 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:47 pm to
Playboy has only ranked schools in 2010, 2009, 2006, 2002 and 1987



Playboy's Top 10 Party Schools 2010

1. University of Texas at Austin
2. West Virginia University
3. University of Wisconsin-Madison
4. University of Miami
5. East Carolina University
6. Arizona State University
7. Rollins College
8. University of California-Santa Barbara
9. Plymouth State University
10. University of Iowa
"Best in Class"


Previous Rankings

2009

1. University of Miami
2. University of Texas - Austin
3. San Diego State University
4. University of Florida
5. University of Arizona
6. University of Wisconsin - Madison
7. University of Georgia
8. Louisiana State University
9. University of Iowa
10. West Virginia University

2006

1. University of Wisconsin - Madison
2. UC Santa Barbara
3. Arizona State
4. Indiana
5. San Diego State
6. Florida State
7. Ohio University
8. University of Georgia
9. University of Tennessee
10. McGill University
2002

1. Arizona State
2. Chico State
3. Rollins
4. Louisiana State
5. West Virginia
6. Colorado
7. Wisconsin
8. Connecticut
9. Kansas
10. San Diego State
11. Georgia
12. Ohio State
13. Iowa State
14. Florida State
15. Colorado State
16. Florida
17. Tulane
18. Washington State
19. East Carolina
20. Michigan State
21. Mississippi
22. UC Santa Barbara
23. Lehigh
24. Vanderbilt
25. James Madison

1987

1. Chico State
2. Miami
3. San Diego State
4. Vermont
5. Slippery Rock
6. Connecticut
7. West Virginia
8. Plymouth State
9. Mercer
10. Virginia
11. SUNY – Cortland
12. Colorado State
13. Arizona State
14. UNLV
15. Boston U.
16. Central Michigan
17. Southern Illinois
18. Ball State
19. Oklahoma State
20. Central Connecticut
21. Maryland
22. Mississippi
23. Western Georgia
24. Texas
25. MIT
26. Kansas
27. Kansas State
28. Glassboro State
29. Florida
30. Eastern Kentucky
31. Iowa
32. Oklahoma
33. Brown
34. Ohio U.
35. UMass
36. Georgia
37. LSU
38. Missouri
39. Reed College
40. Fairhaven College
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 10:48 pm
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:57 pm to
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Playboy has only ranked schools in 2010, 2009, 2006, 2002 and 1987


Ok someone did I can't find a link so I will concede. Mizzou is still getting into the SEC and WV is not. I had no opinion on WV fans on here until I saw the attacks on Mizzou here when there is no reason for them to have any animosity towards them.
Posted by LightsOut10
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2011
108 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:05 pm to
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Ok someone did I can't find a link so I will concede. Mizzou is still getting into the SEC and WV is not. I had no opinion on WV fans on here until I saw the attacks on Mizzou here when there is no reason for them to have any animosity towards them.

It's called passion and desire. Personally, I would have killed a man to get into the SEC. But now that it looks like Mizzou is SEC bound and we're heading to the Big 12, I am perfectly happy. Big 12 is still the 2nd best football conference, 2nd best basketball conference, and if the Big 12 moves to divisions then we will most likely be 1 win away from a BCS game 4/5 years.
Posted by StarCityBridge
Member since Sep 2011
12 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:05 pm to
I'm not attacking. I wish you guys the best. WVU fans can be annoying at times, because we have that us against the world attitude. I just posted that info to show that there wasn't that big of a difference in the two schools. I just want out of the BigLeast. The Big XII is going to be a nightmare for our non revenue sports. I just want to be in a conference where we don't have to defend our right to have an AQ.

Best of luck!
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:09 pm to
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Big 12 is still the 2nd best football conference


I would agree to disagree with that statement. I think the B1G has that title now, but in the shake up I don't think it really matters.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

I'm not attacking. I wish you guys the best


I am a fan of UTk.

quote:

WVU fans can be annoying at times, because we have that us against the world attitude.


WVU fits better in the fan category in the SEC (I live in MO.)

quote:

The Big XII is going to be a nightmare


Welcome to the Texass hell.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 11:13 pm
Posted by LightsOut10
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2011
108 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

I would agree to disagree with that statement. I think the B1G has that title now, but in the shake up I don't think it really matters.

B1G? Really? If you said the Pac12 you could have had an argument. But I would have thought the SEC would realize more than anybody how much the B1G is overrated.

But you're right, in the end it doesn't matter. All that matters is not being the weakest BCS conference left when it's all said and done. Hoepfully the SEC can strike the death blow to the ACC and grab FSU/Clemson/VT and the natural progression towards 4 power conferences can start.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:19 pm to
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B1G? Really? If you said the Pac12


USCw - Will feel the scholarship reductions, ask Bama.
Oregon - Is good but they stumble every year.
Stanford - What happens after Luck?

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