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Something to worry about at WVU
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:58 am
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:58 am
Two years ago, the Tigers had to frequently play in rain and on sloppy fields, and they struggled as a result. The only loss I can remember that was directly contributable to the weather and field conditions was the Cap One Bowl to PSU. There's not a doubt in my mind that the Tigers would have crushed them on a reasonable surface.
We also had a very tough time at Mississippi State on a lousy field. Bad weather and field conditions are a great equalizer and almost always hurt the faster, more athletic team.
I believe that LSU had trouble developing in 2009 because of all the games that were played in rain and on wet surfaces. Thus, the 9-4 record with all losses after September.
I don't like the weather forecast this week for Morgantown. Chances are that there will be substantial rain between now and gametime. If I was a Mountaineer coach, I would ask the field maintenance folks to water the field heavily in addition to the rain.
Right now, the Vegas spread is 5.5 to 6 points. The over/under is 50.5. I think both sets of numbers would be higher if the weather forecast all week was fair, and the Tigers could depend upon fast and firm turf.
Sloppy fields not only make for closer and lower scoring games, they cause injuries and tend to favor the home team, who has a better grasp, due to experience, of what footwear to use on their home field. At a minimum, they can be more responsive to changing field conditions.
I see that the chance of rain on Saturday is only 40% in Morgantown. I also see the weather map, and there is somewhere between a 30 and 60% chance of rain every day this week. If you know anything about probability, the chance that it will not rain substantially this week is very low.
I don't want to see any Tigers injured, and I don't want to see Tiger defenders having to play soft for fear fo slipping and giving up a big play. I do believe that LSU has much more power and size than WVU and acknowledge that sloppy conditions could favor the Tigers in the power game.
I just hope the track is good enough to avoid injuries, allow continued development of all three phases of the Tiger game and make for a fair contest, which I believe LSU will dominate.
We also had a very tough time at Mississippi State on a lousy field. Bad weather and field conditions are a great equalizer and almost always hurt the faster, more athletic team.
I believe that LSU had trouble developing in 2009 because of all the games that were played in rain and on wet surfaces. Thus, the 9-4 record with all losses after September.
I don't like the weather forecast this week for Morgantown. Chances are that there will be substantial rain between now and gametime. If I was a Mountaineer coach, I would ask the field maintenance folks to water the field heavily in addition to the rain.
Right now, the Vegas spread is 5.5 to 6 points. The over/under is 50.5. I think both sets of numbers would be higher if the weather forecast all week was fair, and the Tigers could depend upon fast and firm turf.
Sloppy fields not only make for closer and lower scoring games, they cause injuries and tend to favor the home team, who has a better grasp, due to experience, of what footwear to use on their home field. At a minimum, they can be more responsive to changing field conditions.
I see that the chance of rain on Saturday is only 40% in Morgantown. I also see the weather map, and there is somewhere between a 30 and 60% chance of rain every day this week. If you know anything about probability, the chance that it will not rain substantially this week is very low.
I don't want to see any Tigers injured, and I don't want to see Tiger defenders having to play soft for fear fo slipping and giving up a big play. I do believe that LSU has much more power and size than WVU and acknowledge that sloppy conditions could favor the Tigers in the power game.
I just hope the track is good enough to avoid injuries, allow continued development of all three phases of the Tiger game and make for a fair contest, which I believe LSU will dominate.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:59 am to MN Tigah
Field will not be sloppy - Fieldturf.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:00 am to MN Tigah
They have turf not grass so field won't be sloppy. Also we are a much better team than 2 years ago.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:00 am to MN Tigah
If it's raining, passing the ball will be harder to do. That bodes well for LSU.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:00 am to Tigersomething
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Field will not be sloppy - Fieldturf.
This^^^
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:01 am to MN Tigah
Ever seen a WET Honey badger? I'd think it would be even more pissed off and full of hate!
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:02 am to MN Tigah
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I don't like the weather forecast this week for Morgantown. Chances are that there will be substantial rain between now and gametime. If I was a Mountaineer coach, I would ask the field maintenance folks to water the field heavily in addition to the rain.
Help me understand.
You believe that West Virginia is going to take advantage of a slow, wet field and just pound it at us? And, you think a slow wet field will uncharacteristically force us to more of a straight ahead running game?
LSU is built to play power football compared to West Virginia.
This post was edited on 9/21/11 at 8:04 am
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:03 am to LsuTool
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If it's raining, passing the ball will be harder to do. That bodes well for LSU.
ding ding ding.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:03 am to MN Tigah
We have a different offense now. Power running instead of spread option. I say we do good in the slop.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:04 am to MN Tigah
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weather and field conditions was the Cap One Bowl to PSU
Well, as long as a high school football tournament, another NCAA game, and frickING HORSE DRAWN WAGONS are not thrown out there between now and Saturday night - we should be aight, AIGHT!
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:15 am to RummelTiger
"them tigers are baaad...wet or dry, aawwhh".
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:18 am to RummelTiger
Wet field negates speed, which we have. It can be a negative for us b/c poor/unsure footing makes it hard to turn and drive on the ball in the air.
Yes the ball is heavier and slipperier,but it isn't totally good for us, just something to think about.
Yes the ball is heavier and slipperier,but it isn't totally good for us, just something to think about.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:20 am to MN Tigah
Wet conditions favor the team that runs the ball and takes care of it. LSU is that team. WVU has no running game. If it has to pass to win in a downpour, then LSU wins going away.
Do they not sell Valium in Minnesota? Seriously. This game will not be close. Relax.
Do they not sell Valium in Minnesota? Seriously. This game will not be close. Relax.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:23 am to sowbugg
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"them tigers are baaad...wet or dry, aawwhh".
i'm hijacking this thread, but this was too good to pass up....
"knock him out, John....awrrrrrrrrr"
"you who are supposed to be a Baptist minister, why did you do that to me....
and he pointed a long, bony finger at me and said, 'the meek shall inherit the earth'.....
and I just inherited a mouthful"
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:24 am to moneyg
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You believe that West Virginia is going to take advantage of a slow, wet field and just pound it at us?
I never said nor implied that WVU would just pound it at us.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:26 am to MN Tigah
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I would ask the field maintenance folks to water the field heavily in addition to the rain.
Water their field turf? Wow MN Tigah, you may go into the Rantard Hall of Fame w/ this one...
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:28 am to Tigersomething
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Field will not be sloppy - Fieldturf.
Oops! I did not know that. It's good news.
I guess I had better do a little more homework before drafting a post that essentially turns out to be a worthless rant.
Sorry about that. I do like to worry, though!
I didn't mean to waste everybody's time, but there still remain a few good points about how sloppy fields have negatively impacted the Tigers in the past.
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