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Empty net question...when?

Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:45 pm
Hockey does it, why do the Frenchies have a goalie still in?

Yes, I'm ignorant.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:46 pm to
You won't see it unless France gets a corner and they might bring her up.

You can't sub as fluidly in soccer as hockey, so she's pretty much got to stay in. She can come up and help on the attack, but that's almost giving away another goal though.
This post was edited on 7/13/11 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21002 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:54 pm to
Hockey goal is a lot smaller than a soccer goal
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:55 pm to
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You won't see it unless France gets a corner and they might bring her up.


Best example. American legend and Tottenham man, Brad Friedel.

The best thing about it is that Charlton came right back and scored to win. The beautiful game, indeed.
This post was edited on 7/13/11 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5478 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:56 pm to
Had they not let in the third goal, it would have happened with like 5 minutes left if I had to guess.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:58 pm to
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Had they not let in the third goal, it would have happened with like 5 minutes left if I had to guess.


Only on a corner or free kick. Goal is never left empty due to a sub. Ever.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:59 pm to
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Had they not let in the third goal, it would have happened with like 5 minutes left if I had to guess.


Not unless there was a corner.

This is why
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/13/11 at 12:59 pm to
Get lost!!
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:02 pm to
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Get lost!!



Golfer is a good poster on other boards. Some people don't understand the nuances of a game, it isn't a big deal.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4915 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:05 pm to
We're to spread the beautiful game man, relax
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:06 pm to
I dunno, I guess it just doesn't make sense. You're down, time is running out...you need another body.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4915 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:06 pm to
People can hit that net from 70+ yards, it's just too easy to get scored on with out the keeper
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:08 pm to
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I dunno, I guess it just doesn't make sense. You're down, time is running out...you need another body


Did you watch the video I posted?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:09 pm to
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People can hit that net from 70+ yards, it's just too easy to get scored on with out the keeper


Same can easily be said for hockey...keep in mind, you're down two. There's 2 minutes left. You need to score quick or you are going to lose.

I know ya'll hate football references, but its almost like a team being down 14 with 2 minutes left and choosing to run the ball on 1st and 10.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:10 pm to
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I dunno, I guess it just doesn't make sense. You're down, time is running out...you need another body.


In hockey, you can sub freely. In soccer, you can't. Also, even Solo could score on an empty net from 80+ yards.

ETA: The subbing allows it in hockey. Once the down team loses possession, the goalie comes back in. Can't do that in soccer.
This post was edited on 7/13/11 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:10 pm to
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Did you watch the video I posted?


Yes, everyone keeps telling me that the other team can score. Well of course, but it isn't like a team is going to do this with 20 minutes left in the match.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:11 pm to
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In hockey, you can sub freely. In soccer, you can't. Also, even Solo could score on an empty net from 80+ yards.


Can a goalie not kick a ball?

And stop telling me the other team can score, I know this...
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:12 pm to
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I know ya'll hate football references, but its almost like a team being down 14 with 2 minutes left and choosing to run the ball on 1st and 10.


It's a good way to lose 4-1.

The average male professional, would hit a 70-80 yard shot with no problem.

Plus the tactical advantage of being up 11-10 compared to 6-5 is considerably less.

Hockey is about strength. Soccer is about space.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:14 pm to
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It's a good way to lose 4-1.


You're going home if you don't win. Why not try at all costs?
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Plus the tactical advantage of being up 11-10 compared to 6-5 is considerably less.


Then why was the game vs. Brazil of epic proportions because the US played down a person?

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Soccer is about space.


Lacrosse?
This post was edited on 7/13/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 1:14 pm to
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Can a goalie not kick a ball?



Another thing: A hockey rink is much smaller than a soccer pitch. A player can't get back quick enough. There is 0% of ever winning the match if you play empty net, unless you leave the net empty on a set piece.
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