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re: Empty net question...when?

Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36737 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:50 pm to
i get people not fully understanding a sport, but i still dont get how people ask questions like this.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

i get people not fully understanding a sport, but i still dont get how people ask questions like this.


Really?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Bingo, coming out of your group tied , goal differential is huge


Well in today's example, you needed to win.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:57 pm to
If you haven't figured it out yet, then you never will.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:58 pm to
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If you haven't figured it out yet, then you never will.


I understand the reasoning. But to think that this is some dumbshit question...
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:03 pm to
Nah it's not really stupid. The why don't they make the goals bigger or why can't they use their hands questions are the worst.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18578 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:03 pm to
Golfer, ygm
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21025 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:06 pm to
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Hockey does it, why do the Frenchies have a goalie still in?

Yes, I'm ignorant.


You have to have a goalie at all times.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:07 pm to
Got it...working on something here at the office...I'll lay it all out for you tonight.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

The why don't they make the goals bigger or why can't they use their hands questions are the worst.



Why are there goalies?

Why doesn't the clock stop?

Why don't people score?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

You have to have a goalie at all times.


I didn't really clarify the OP, but I was talking more about just moving the goalie up.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21025 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

Maybe they should do this in soccer...


No one will ever agree with me, but I definitely wish soccer had the count down method with clock stopage like other sports.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26499 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:10 pm to
I like the "Why don't the make the pitch smaller? " . . "It'd get more people interested in soccer"
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21025 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:10 pm to
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I like the "Why don't the make the pitch smaller? " . . "It'd get more people interested in soccer"


Or "why don't they get rid of offside?
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:11 pm to
Why don't they have European games at night in the US?



Yes, I've really heard this one. And yes, the guy was serious.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9380 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:20 pm to
Golfer:

I get your question as someone who doesn't watch a lot of soccer. You should look back at Joey Barton's answer in pg3 as that's the clear reason you're looking for.

It's NOT the risk of giving up a goal that makes it a low percentage play.

It's that the 1 extra man advantage isn't going to keep you from losing possession and then watch the other side just be able to boot the ball 80 yrds and waste tons of time even if they don't score.

Instead, GK DO come way forward in desperate situations so they quickly return the ball toward the attack.

They, of course, come all the way forward on set pieces often and then sprint like crazy to get back.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18578 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:26 pm to
thanks brah!
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19696 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:18 pm to
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Golfer



Later in games and trailing, goalies will USUALLY play as far up as the back line usually plays, if not farther, pushing everyone else forward.

Hope that helps.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

People can hit that net from 70+ yards, it's just too easy to get scored on with out the keeper


This.

An extra player just doesn't help all that much, 11 instead of 10 isn't that big a difference. You'd give up a goal nearly every time the defenders pick up the ball (that is, 95% of the time) and send it toward your net.

The indoor soccer field is much smaller and you see this tactic much more often as a result. Even if the keeper can't get back in time someone else can get in the way.

Actually, I think indoor soccer is closer to hockey than it is to outdoor soccer. The major difference is that the keeper is much more influential in indoor than in hockey. Other than that a lot is the same.
Posted by ornagestorm
Oregon
Member since Jun 2008
5105 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 8:56 pm to
Venezuela used their goalie today to tie Paraguay

LINK
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Venezuela was trailing 3-1 but pulled one back in the 89th via Nicolas Fedor. Goalkeeper Renny Vicente Vega then rushed to the other end in the game’s last play and met a corner with an angled header to set up Perozo’s equalizer two minutes into stoppage time.
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