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Showing up at a restaurant,minutes after posted closing time.

Posted on 5/28/11 at 11:31 pm
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10508 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 11:31 pm
What should the restaurant do.

A.Sorry,we closed one minute ago.

B.Come on in,the kitchen won`t mind.

C.What would you do?
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10922 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 11:34 pm to
Not so easy an answer. Were there other tables there currently dining and food being waited upon or did you walk into an empty restaurant where most likely the kitchen had been broken down and cleaned before you walked up?
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10508 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 11:46 pm to
I`am asking,as if you owned the restaurant. You have staff trying to get out after working split shifts.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16320 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:02 am to
I did this to buffalo wild wings in Houma once. They gave me the nuclear hot instead of just the regular hot.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:03 am to
A good business owner will let them in...

Problem is restaurants and their kitchen are usually lazy and would rather leave than get paid more...
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5369 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:14 am to
Go to Pocarella's one minute after closing and that is the appropriate response.
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:14 am to
Since I've worked in the industry, I don't feel comfortable entering a restaurant after a half hour before they close. I'm not saying that it's wrong, it's just a personal preference. Usually after that time the kitchen is in the process of cleaning up and shutting down, so it's somewhat out of respect for the BOH. Depending on the restaurant, the quality of the food may be compromised, and don't forget that the cooks are handling chemical cleaners during that time.

A smart restaurant's policy however is to not close until people stop coming in, even if it's after the posted close time.
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:23 am to
quote:

Problem is restaurants and their kitchen are usually lazy and would rather leave than get paid more...


...or like employees at ANY job, they want to go home when it's time to get off.

When I worked as a server, I would rather go home when I was supposed to than wait an extra hour to get the $5 or $10 I'd make on a tip. By the time we closed, I had already made my money, and wanted to get out of there. The kitchen had even less incentive to stay.
This post was edited on 5/29/11 at 12:27 am
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9961 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:28 am to
They should tell you to get a watch and to GTFO.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170594 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:31 am to
quote:

A good business owner will let them in...

Problem is restaurants and their kitchen are usually lazy and would rather leave than get paid more...


Rather leave than get paid more?

So in your estimation it's worth the extra overhead cost to service one table after hours?

It might be good for business but in the moment it's not cost effective.

And I don't think it's good for employee moral to keep people working after hours
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:34 am to
how about you don't show up late expecting to get a meal, douche...

those people got families and shite to go home to after a long day of serving/cooking/dealing with assholes....
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170594 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:36 am to
Right...that's another obvious point.

Why the frick does some count feel entitled to be served after a place closes?

Just go to a 24 hour diner or fast food place and get what you can
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:45 am to
quote:

...or like employees at ANY job, they want to go home when it's time to get off.


its the service industry...you get off when you don't have any more people to serve.

sorry.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:48 am to
quote:

Rather leave than get paid more?


A line cook at a random restaurant is going to want to get off work rather than stay another hour and make some $$$. Which is completely contradictory of the service industry, IMO.

quote:

So in your estimation it's worth the extra overhead cost to service one table after hours?



Yes. Its good business to keep the doors open if there are customers still wanting your product. You might lose a few bucks that night, but the longterm return is there, IMO.


quote:

And I don't think it's good for employee moral to keep people working after hours
A good owner/manager would train its service industry staff to understand that there's a reason they are working in that sector.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:52 am to
My wife recently called in a pickup order at LaMadeline at around 8:45, she assumed they closed at 10pm.

She goes by at 9:15 and everything is closed, doors are locked, etc.

Instead of just looking at her crazily from inside, one of the employees came to the door and let her get her order. That's how it should be done.
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:59 am to
quote:

its the service industry...you get off when you don't have any more people to serve.


Then why do most restaurants and bars have hours of operation on the door? If their hours say "11:00 am - til," then your point would be valid. Otherwise, you're just wrong.
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 1:01 am to
quote:

My wife recently called in a pickup order at LaMadeline at around 8:45, she assumed they closed at 10pm.

She goes by at 9:15 and everything is closed, doors are locked, etc.

Instead of just looking at her crazily from inside, one of the employees came to the door and let her get her order. That's how it should be done.


That's totally different from going into a restaurant five minutes before they close, and sitting there for an hour or longer.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 1:10 am to
quote:

Then why do most restaurants and bars have hours of operation on the door?


They don't kick people out that are there at closing time. Do they?

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/29/11 at 1:11 am to
quote:

That's totally different from going into a restaurant five minutes before they close, and sitting there for an hour or longer.


You're right. In your example the patron should be served and treated as any other customer.

In my wife's case, they didn't even have to open up the door.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 1:19 am to
Yeah, they should be served in my scenario. It's still a shitty thing to do as a customer, and you're generally setting yourself up for a less than great meal if you do that. Going in after a business is closed, you don't deserve to be served no matter what the business is, but it sure feels good when a place takes the time to help you.

quote:

In my wife's case, they didn't even have to open up the door
.

If she hadn't just been picking up a to-go order, and wanted a table, they wouldn't have.
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