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re: Do you avoid any particular actors/actresses movies because of politics
Posted on 5/3/11 at 5:15 pm to fouldeliverer
Posted on 5/3/11 at 5:15 pm to fouldeliverer
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I avoid all movies or television shows that has any Jewish contributors to it at all. Writers, Directors, Producers, Actors or Actresses...anyone.
Is that what Fox News is telling their viewers they should do this week?
Posted on 5/3/11 at 5:18 pm to The Dude Abides
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it's not shallow to avoid supporting the work of people who don't share the same beliefs as you. if you truly disagreed with their fundamental beliefs then you shouldn't support anything they do, because when you do it just provides their platform to spew their trash.
You aren't one of those people that was going to boycott Disney for having Gay Days were you?
Posted on 5/3/11 at 5:30 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:I get that. It's also easy to find millions of direct quotes from "everyday folks" who demonize them for their views. Kind-of a chicken or the egg thing. My point is that, as I pointed out to the person to whom my post was directed, I would judge their work equally and on its own merits--I said if the poster who demonized Penn for his views was the best at his job, I'd seek his services.
See...this is the point I think you may be missing here. In nearly all of the cases of the various actors mentioned thus far, it would be EASY to go and find direct quotes from them personally demonizing those who hold political views opposite of their own. Not just national politicians...but every day folks who hold opposing views to their own.
To use an example that was mentioned in this thread: "Milk" didn't appeal to me based on the movie it was, not just because Penn was in it. I judged it based on the trailers and writeups and decided not to see it.
I'll also seek out films or works that I know present a viewpoint different from my own because I might find it interesting if I feel that it is competently presented. I don't only seek out viewpoints that reaffirm my own. That's intellectually dishonest IMHO, but that's another discussion altogether.
quote:I'm the last person to keep tabs on celebrity politics since I frankly don't care and I don't watch cable news so I'm not the most qualified to answer but, off the top of my head: Mel Gibson is/has been a tremendous Hollywood force. Kelsey Grammer has done a lot and a couple of shows that I know targeted black female (presumably liberal) audiences: Girlfriends and The Game. I watch neither of those shows because they don't appeal to me or my interests.
In addition, because the entertainment industry is completely dominated by those on the political left, it's is totally impossible short of being Amish to avoid each and every entertainer that simply happens to hold an opposing view. This is an issue that simply does not come up for those folks whose politics are on the left...I mean, what are they going to avoid because the actor/show is way too conservative?
Bottom line--I judge the work based on the work. I don't give two shits what the artist's personal views are on a political level. If Michael Moore played Michael Corleone as well as Al Pacino, I'd still love The Godfather.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 6:24 pm to Jamohn
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Jamohn
Your post may be the last one on here but mine above it killed the thread.
People who talked about principles and mentioned religion ran from this thread when the Disney Gay Days came into it.
They are principled enough to come on a bulletin board and spew their rhetoric about not watching Sean Penn but none of the Fox News watchers was principled enough to give up their ESPN.
Then or especially now with the SEC contract.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 6:56 pm to chinese58
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People who talked about principles and mentioned religion ran from this thread when the Disney Gay Days came into it.
Actually I had school. Fwiw, Walt Disney was very antisemitic. Oh, and I'm 100% for homosexual rights, but nice try
Posted on 5/3/11 at 6:59 pm to chinese58
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They are principled enough to come on a bulletin board and spew their rhetoric about not watching Sean Penn but none of the Fox News watchers was principled enough to give up their ESPN.
You types are the main reason I left the Poliboard. I don't watch Fox News and I certainly don't blast rhetoric. Quit trying to paint every single person that disagrees with you into the Republican or Conservative corner. If you're kosher with what Sean Penn said about imprisoning people because they call a dictator a dictator, thats cool. I'm not saying he is not allowed to say that, I'm saying that I'm allowed to pass individual judgement and decide on my own whether or not I want to see that individual's movies, and most of the time I don't.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:27 pm to tduecen
Most actors/actresses are crazy in some way or fashion imo. If one has different views than me, I'm not gonna refuse to see a movie they are in just because of that.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:03 pm to lsunurse
Cam we start using the term "hack," in here too?
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:04 pm to Jcorye1
My last post wasn't aimed at you.
Another poster said it was "obvious" that a poster who disagreed with him was "not religious" right after he tried infer the same poster didn't have "principles" like he did.
Sorry, but that is the same kind of stuff most of the Facebook people with Fox News logos on their profile pages all spit out.
I think a logical adult wouldn't be worried about what some actor says because only and idiot would put any credence in it anyway.
Why should any of us think an actor's perspective on politics should be taken seriously.
The only person that would get upset about this kind of stuff should be someone with the same flaw for paying attention to what "their" side is saying.
That's why I assume people that get upset over this stuff watch Fox News. They are the one's that tell everybody what celebrities say.
I don't like Penn, his politics or a lot of his movies. My mind just can't get around why people care what they say about these subjects.
This is a movie board. I don't like seeing someone questioning someone's principles or whether or not they are "religious".
Another poster said it was "obvious" that a poster who disagreed with him was "not religious" right after he tried infer the same poster didn't have "principles" like he did.
Sorry, but that is the same kind of stuff most of the Facebook people with Fox News logos on their profile pages all spit out.
I think a logical adult wouldn't be worried about what some actor says because only and idiot would put any credence in it anyway.
Why should any of us think an actor's perspective on politics should be taken seriously.
The only person that would get upset about this kind of stuff should be someone with the same flaw for paying attention to what "their" side is saying.
That's why I assume people that get upset over this stuff watch Fox News. They are the one's that tell everybody what celebrities say.
I don't like Penn, his politics or a lot of his movies. My mind just can't get around why people care what they say about these subjects.
This is a movie board. I don't like seeing someone questioning someone's principles or whether or not they are "religious".
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:12 pm to Uncle Stu
Don't be talkin bad bout Andy Dufrense.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:16 pm to lsunurse
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Most actors/actresses are crazy in some way or fashion imo. If one has different views than me, I'm not gonna refuse to see a movie they are in just because of that.
Agreed, but many times it is not simply that they have different views than others, but instead it's the implied hatred and disgust that they have for those who disagree with them. I can easily brush off a differing opinion than mine, but what comes out of the mouths of some of these people is hard for me to forget while I'm watching one of their movies.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:38 pm to chinese58
Thats cool. I won't avoid those actors like the plague, but I also won't try to seek them out either. I gotta give Alec props, other than Harrison Ford, he was the best Jack Ryan
Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:01 pm to Fat Andy
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people that do, need to take the stick out of their arse.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:10 pm to tduecen
Absolutely - started w/Hanoi Jane Fonda and the list is very long now - why should I fund/subsidize anti-American jack-asses? I hope they all die a miserable death...you are welcome.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 11:41 pm to chinese58
quote:I think it's discrimination they only let the gheys in on specific days. That shite ain't right.
You aren't one of those people that was going to boycott Disney for having Gay Days were you?
Posted on 5/3/11 at 11:43 pm to Jcorye1
quote:^ that.
If you're kosher with what Sean Penn said about imprisoning people because they call a dictator a dictator, thats cool. I'm not saying he is not allowed to say that, I'm saying that I'm allowed to pass individual judgement and decide on my own whether or not I want to see that individual's movies, and most of the time I don't.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 11:47 pm to tduecen
no but I do avoid Jane Fonda because of her actions during and after the Vietnam war.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 11:50 pm to chinese58
quote:no no no no, that's not what i meant at all. Maybe i didn't make my point as well as i could have.
Another poster said it was "obvious" that a poster who disagreed with him was "not religious" right after he tried infer the same poster didn't have "principles" like he did.
I'm not religious by any means, but i also would not knowingly patronize a satanic auto repair place.
The principles comment, i didn't mean to infer that he had none, just that obviously mine were different from his. Everyone has principles, i let mine determine things for me, he for him, i'm sure there is something that would cause him to not go to said auto repair place, whatever that may be, for me satanism would do it.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 5/4/11 at 12:00 am to The Dude Abides
Do y'all live in communities where it's common knowledge on what the beliefs of the auto repair men are or something?
I mean being honest, if I for some reason know the guy worships Satan I'm probably gonna just go to the second best guy in town. He's probably a little cheaper anyway.
I mean being honest, if I for some reason know the guy worships Satan I'm probably gonna just go to the second best guy in town. He's probably a little cheaper anyway.
Posted on 5/4/11 at 12:15 am to tduecen
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This post was edited on 5/4/11 at 1:36 am
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