- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Why you are wrong to count out Jarrett Lee
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:26 pm to therocketscientist
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:26 pm to therocketscientist
I remember people screaming for JJ in 2008 to start. JJ in my opinion didn't start to play bad until the team asked him to rely less on his natural ability and instead made him think more. He just looked like a better QB when he could just go out there any play. Same thing happened with Aaron Brooks and the Saints.
2
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:47 pm to geauxtigers87
quote:
JJ in my opinion didn't start to play bad until the team asked him to rely less on his natural ability and instead made him think more. He just looked like a better QB when he could just go out there any play.
I don't mean this in a smart arse way, but this isn't sandlot ball. The offensive schemes at this level are very advanced and require a lot of thinking on the QB's part. If he started playing bad when they started expanding the playbook would make him not so good of a QB, no differently then if he started playing bad when they asked him to throw the ball further. You need skill plus smarts. Some kids are blessed with one or the other and have average careers, a few lucky ones are blessed with both, they are the ones that make it big.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:56 pm to therocketscientist
I don't give a damn who starts this upcoming year.... as long as they are productive and can throw the ball and win games! If it is Jefferson, I wish him all the best. If it is Lee, I wish him all the best as well. And again... if it is Mett, I wish him the best too! We just need a quarterback that is consistant! I can't knock starting Jefferson on the first game; he does have experience. If he is inconsistant the first few series, put the next qb in and see if there is a change. We are not on the field to see what practice is like so I hope Miles uses the best qb that he feels can win us games.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:21 pm to Tiger55
No, I agree that this isn't sandlot ball. I was just making a point that everyone was calling for JJ to play, and now everyone is throwing him under the bus. I think you have to blame the former oc for not playing to JJ's strengths more than anything. Having said that, JJ really hasn't shown the decision making needed to make it as an SEC qb, but I think we're going to have to put up with it another year unfortunately.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 2:09 pm to jpcajun
quote:
If he is inconsistant the first few series, put the next qb in and see if there is a change
you really think thats all it takes for a coach to make a decision to change a QB in the beginning of the game, with no other factors, other ten a 10-13 point lead or something.
It's not gonna happen unless somehow it's like that. What if the next QB comes in and add to that lead, what's next pull him , and the next comes in and lose more ground ,game etc.
Then all you got is a bunch of confidence damaged kids.Maybe not you but,I feel like there's some who will be there to start the booing, in a couple of series.And before the seasons over it'll be a situation like the Auburn game, with the QB that was playing effective and that could have put more points on the board or won the game sitting.Negative is for Losers, because they never get the most out of, changing and not perfect situation.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 2:45 pm to geauxtigers87
quote:
I remember people screaming for JJ in 2008 to start.
I think many people, myself included, wanted to see JJ split time with Lee in '08 when it became apparent Lee was regressing.
Last year was the reverse. I wanted Lee to get more time when it became apparent JJ was regressing.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I fully expect JJ to start, however my reason for not counting Lee out is injuries. JJ gets his bell rung quite a few times each season. I'm sure many of you remember seeing him slow to get up, sitting on his rear after taking a big hit. Lee gives us another moderately skilled QB who can sometimes not go three and out.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 4:20 pm to bojabu
quote:
I fully expect JJ to start
me too. But this does not mean he has to be the main guy. He can be a symbolic starter that comes off as the change of pace guy with Lee/Mett getting the majority of the snaps.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 4:26 pm to bojabu
Jordan didnt get hurt at all last year.. Lee was 3 and out in every game after florida.. Look it up
Posted on 4/5/11 at 4:39 pm to therocketscientist
quote:
therocketscientist
If Lee corrects his flaws and with his talent, can he win the Heisman this season and be an early draft pick on his way to being a top 10 NFL QB?
Posted on 4/5/11 at 4:48 pm to SMOOTH
quote:except for that crucial 3rd down play against Bama?
Jordan didnt get hurt at all last year.. Lee was 3 and out in every game after florida.. Look it up
There's no reason to bash any of these guys. The coaches will put the guy out there that gives this team the best chance to win. I don't care who that is as long as I see points and wins.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:07 pm to SMOOTH
quote:
Lee was 3 and out in every game after florida.. Look it up
Yup Vs McNeese
6 plays 40 yards Touchdown
8 plays 56 yards Touchdown
12 plays 32 yards Missed FG (Jefferson Participated in 2 plays)
6 Plays 53 Yards Missed FG
3 Plays -12 Yards Punt
5 Plays 69 Yards Touchdown
Vs Auburn
8 Plays 14 Yards Punt
3 Plays 4 Yards Punt
3 Plays -2 Yards Punt
4 plays 6 yards turnover on downs
Vs Alabama
5 plays 13 yards punt
3 plays 4 yards punt
3 plays 8 yards Missed FG
4 plays 47 yards Switched to Jefferson
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:20 pm to tduecen
I still think the 2 qb system was the primary reason for both JJ and especially JL's struggle. Cant establish timing with the WRs...etc
We need ONE guy to lead the offense
We need ONE guy to lead the offense
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:22 pm to unbeWEAVEable
quote:LSU did not go to the QB system till the Tennessee game last year. That was the 5th game of the season and after Jefferson looked horrible against West Virginia/Mississippi State
I still think the 2 qb system was the primary reason for both JJ and especially JL's struggle. Cant establish timing with the WRs...etc
We need ONE guy to lead the offense
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:36 pm to unbeWEAVEable
quote:
I still think the 2 qb system was the primary reason for both JJ and especially JL's struggle. Cant establish timing with the WRs...etc
We need ONE guy to lead the offense
I don't think LSU has one guy who can lead the offense, yet. Last year the two QB system was necessary.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:40 pm to OBUDan
quote:
yet the evidence overwhelmingly suggests one is better than the other.
One has 1 start in two years and the other has 24 starts in 2 years.
Seems someone with far more college football understanding than us here has backed the play of one "overwhelmingly" more than the other.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:41 pm to Lonnie4LSU
YAY
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:44 pm to Lonnie4LSU
quote:
One has 1 start in two years and the other has 24 starts in 2 years.
Seems someone with far more college football understanding than us here has backed the play of one "overwhelmingly" more than the other.
Are the results indicative of the success of that particular choice? Just curious. You know, stats and all... The evidence of superiority is very underwhelming.
I don't believe one is better than the other. The style of play is preferable to the coaching staff it seems.
This post was edited on 4/5/11 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
JR was overwhelmingly better than flynn (he was better but not overwhelmingly)
booty was overwhelmingly better than rohan (i mean he started over him)
leinart was overwhelmingly better than matt cassell
this list is fun
booty was overwhelmingly better than rohan (i mean he started over him)
leinart was overwhelmingly better than matt cassell
this list is fun
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:57 pm to tduecen
Wonder if Hatch was overwhelmingly better than Lee and JJ?
Page 10 of 14
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News