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For the people saying Crowton sucks...

Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:50 am
Posted by GeorgeLSU
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Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:50 am
I hope you realize, he is not the person calling the plays. Miles is. Les also called the plays last year.
Posted by Tiger_N_Aggieland
College Station, Texas
Member since Mar 2005
689 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:51 am to
Again with this? Really??? How do you know this?
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:52 am to
It's a bad situation all around.

My take on it, and I think Gordy and co. are right. Miles puts Crowton in a box, and I think the reason he puts him in a box is because JJ is horrible. If he lets Crowton out of the box, you're going to see a ton of turnovers.

Between the three of them, it's going to be a long year.
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:53 am to
Yeah, how do you know?
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
29577 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:53 am to
No matter who calls the plays, there is conflict in styles that results in poor performance.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10639 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:54 am to
quote:

I hope you realize, he is not the person calling the plays. Miles is. Les also called the plays last year.


You're an idiot and wrong. Congtralations.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63705 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:54 am to
Been saying this since last year, but I copied this from my post this Sunday.

quote:

It's quite obvious, Miles has most of the influence on the offense. Gordy Rush and Charles Hannegriff were making that point pretty strongly last night. Those guys have off the record access to all of the coaches. If they say it, I believe it.

The point is this, Miles might not call in every single play, but from Sunday-Friday, Les Miles explains exactly what he wants run from our offense. In a 3rd and 9 situation, it's real easy for Miles to say over his head set, "Keep the ball on the ground here." He's the head coach, his $4 million dollar job is on the line, and he's going to win or lose his way!
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21479 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:54 am to
quote:

My take on it, and I think Gordy and co. are right. Miles puts Crowton in a box, and I think the reason he puts him in a box is because JJ is horrible
yes. notice in 07 when we had a competent qb the playcalling was decent.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4586 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:54 am to
Mike Bellotti (former longtime Oregon HC) recently said on ESPN that he coached with Crowton at Oregon and what he sees at LSU is NOT a Gary Crowton offense. this garbage arse "O" at LSU has Les Miles written all over it. BTW, I don't have a link.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43446 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:55 am to
If so, why has he been sticking around?
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
16522 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 10:57 am to
You don't read/listen/watch enough LSU football. This has been proven...Crowton is calling the plays.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:02 am to
Whatever the real scenario is it may be moot at this point.

I can't see Crowton being around after this year. Depending on the final record, either he and Miles will both be gone or just Crowton will be.

Then again, you never really know how these things will play out lately.
Posted by Coco Rose
Member since Sep 2010
133 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:02 am to
I hope you know Crowton is the one who is designing the plays.

Whoever is calling the option play should be fired on the spot!
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
11960 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:04 am to
quote:

You're an idiot and wrong. Congtralations.
Not sure I've ever seen such a failed spelling of this word.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:04 am to
Crowton's offense is complicated. The WR & QB both have to make reads on every pass attempt. Basically JJ has no clue what route the receiver is going to run. This is one of the reasons the ball is always late getting out of his hands.

Miles and Crowton have cut the playbook down to make it easier on JJ and would probably love to only have to throw the ball 10-15 times a game.

I'm in the camp that JL is probably the better option in the passing game, but I think that Miles was prepared for an anemic passing offense this year.
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8749 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:04 am to
Doesn't matter. If that is the case then it means we have a head coach and an OC that are not on the same page and do not share the same philosophy on how to run the offense. So either way it is a bad combination.
Posted by GeorgeLSU
30.41155, -91.18296
Member since Jul 2008
854 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:04 am to
quote:

It's quite obvious, Miles has most of the influence on the offense. Gordy Rush and Charles Hannegriff were making that point pretty strongly last night. Those guys have off the record access to all of the coaches. If they say it, I believe it.

This.

Can you honestly say this is the same style of play calling we had a few years back? Definitely not to me regardless of who the QB is.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6256 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:05 am to
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Again with this? Really??? How do you know this?



1. The offense of the last two years does not even resemble anything that Crowton has done in his first years here, at Oregon, at the Bears, at BYU nor at LA Tech.

2. Miles is known to meddle with his coordinators before. Jimbo could clearly be heard on TV screaming from the pressbox during his last Arky game, "run the **#&$ play I called."

What do you have to controvert this? Nothing.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:05 am to
I know this almost for a fact as well... still doesn't change the fact that he can't develop a QB.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Can you honestly say this is the same style of play calling we had a few years back? Definitely not to me regardless of who the QB is.


Miles and Crowton realized after two failed years that the playbook was to much for both JL and JJ. They sat down with the entire coaching staff and have agreed that they don't need to throw the ball around the field with our D and Special Teams. It sucks to watch the talent on the field have to suffer, but it's what we have been dealt with.
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