Kentucky 2002

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For those of you old enough to remember this game

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I would hope everyone here is old enough to know this game.

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1. Why does Saban get a pass for allowing his defense to squander a 4th qurater lead to an average UK team (they finished 7-5)?

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And thou shall not question Sabear's tactics.

Why does Saban get a pass?

If you can't tell the difference between Nick Saban, and Les Miles then you can't be helped.

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2. How many people were disappointed that LSU won that game, even though they really should have lost?

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fans shouldnt be disappointed because that's one of greatest endings to a CFB game of all time.

Saban was very mad about that game and showed no happiness in the win. He knew they got lucky

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For those of you old enough to remember this game,

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See my sig pic

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1. Why does Saban

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who?


let it go, woman

Let's see:

1) Saban was rebuilding the program and while we won the SEC the year before, people realized we weren't a dominating program at the time.

2) In 2002 we were breaking in a first year starter at QB in Mauck and he went down and had a first year starter in Randall.

3) Our great LSU defense didn't start until 2003 as Saban was still building them up to that point.

I doubt any of you actually give a shite at looking at how things were different in defense of Miles, but rebuilding a program is very different from maintaining a well-oiled machine.

ETA: Good catch Pilot, but you got my point.

I am so f****** tired of the threads that identify some tenuous, barely defensible parallel between Saban's LSU tenure and Miles' LSU tenure in an effort to make`them appear equivalent.

For the very last time:

Saban inherited an LSU program that was coming off the worst decade in its entire history and back to back losing seasons. The Tigers had not been a factor in the national championship discussion since the mid-1980's. When Saban took over, the program had not won the SEC IN OVER TEN YEARS. The last NC was a distant memory that had occurred FORTY YEARS earlier. Think about that. Saban took the underperforming LSU program and transformed into a juggernaut that won two SEC championships and an NC in a three year span. Miles inherited that juggernaut. When Miles became coach, LSU was ONE YEAR removed from an NC and SECC. Not ten years, not forty years. LSU was coming off a 9-2(6-2) regular season. So let's be very, very clear, the situations that Saban and Miles entered are not comparable. Period.

Enough.

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So, a couple of questions:
1. Why does Saban get a pass for allowing his defense to squander a 4th qurater lead to an average UK team (they finished 7-5)?
2. How many people were disappointed that LSU won that game, even though they really should have lost?

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He doesn't get a pass from me. Saban blew a lot of calls and games.

And, I remember jumping up and down when DH went in the end zone with the ball so I can't say I was disappointed. However, I wasn't happy about squandering the lead.

I was more disappointed in the Arkansas game that year when we lost in a similar manner as we won the UK game.

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1. Why does Saban get a pass for allowing his defense to squander a 4th qurater lead to an average UK team (they finished 7-5)?

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Obviously, you weren't paying much attention back then because there was a lot of complaining about blowing that lead and the sentiment that we should have lost. He doesn't get criticized as much for it now in later years because of what happened the year after that.

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2. How many people were disappointed that LSU won that game, even though they really should have lost?

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I suspect all of the Kentucky, Auburn and Arkansas fans were disappointed. I don't recall any LSU fans being disappointed that we won, although many were disappointed with how we played in that game.

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1984Tiger

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Call me when Miles gets offered absurd contracts to coach in the NFL and then even more absurd contracts to coach at Bama.
Or when Miles inherits a 6-6 team and goes 12-2 and 14-0 in his 2nd and 3rd seasons there. Or when Miles can coach ANY team in ANY situation to a perfect record. Or how about just when Miles can coach LSU to less than 2 losses in a season. Or how about when Miles can field a team that can dominate an opponent or just plays focused football or just doesn't turn almost every game into the big ugly.

As bad a person as Saban seems to be, Miles is not the coach Saban is. Stop trying to pretend that he is.

This is an inane topic that says more about your way of thinking than it does about any coach.