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Corexit is carcinogenic and its ingredients absorbed thru skin

Posted on 6/11/10 at 7:43 am
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 7:43 am
Let's review... the EPA allowed dumping up to a million gallons of this stuff into the Gulf despite already having been banned in Britain, and despite the existence of competing safer products. Even worse, Corexit's ingredients were kept secret.

It's everybody's Gulf... Not BP's, not the EPA's, not the Government's. With an application of this magnitude we had a right to know what this stuff contained.

Too late to fire Lisa Jackson... she's already done her damage. Time to investigate how much she raked in personally, because it's hard to imagine how a responsible person would have approved this stuff.

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Posted by WayDownUnder
Member since Dec 2007
Member since Mar 2010
379 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 7:55 am to
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Corexit


Also known as , EC9500 (EC stands for Exxon Chemical, Nalco was once owned by Exxon).

The EPA gave the green light. Any lawsuit people file against Nalco will be dismissed. All Nalco has to say is, "EPA Preapproved Dispersant."
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 7:56 am to
Hmmm. So what we put in the water does matter after all?
What a novel thought.
One would think a quick MSDS check would have revealed this years ago.
quote:

It's everybody's Gulf... Not BP's, not the EPA's, not the Government's. With an application of this magnitude we had a right to know what this stuff contained.

Amen to that.
Posted by UAAlum94
Duck blind in Sledge, MS
Member since Jun 2009
446 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:13 am to
One of the few times I agree with you. Very bad decision by the EPA.

Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17645 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:18 am to
Have they stopped using this dispersant?
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2042 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:29 am to
Obama needs to sign an executive order mandating they stop using Corexit. It is criminal

ETA: I find it to be more criminal on the part of the government for allowing it....what happened between the EPA telling them to stop using it, and their refusal to stop? Someone get paid off?
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 8:40 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31768 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:38 am to
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COREXIT 9500 is on the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) National Contingency Plan (NCP) Product Schedule. This listing does not mean that EPA approves, recommends, licenses, certifies or authorizes the use of COREXIT 9500 on an oil discharge. This listing means only that data have been submitted to EPA as required by Subpart J of the National Contingency Plan 300.915. COREXIT 9500 has been tested and accepted by Environment Canada, and approved by U.K. Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food as a Type 2 and 3 dispersant. COREXIT 9500 has also been approved in Norway, France, Singapore and Indonesia. Prior to use, check with local authorities.


Found this on a corexit product sheet when news first came out that they were using dispersant. I don't quite understand how it's allowed on NCP product schedule to use on an oil spill without EPA approval.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 8:39 am
Posted by lashinala
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Member since Jan 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 8:52 am to
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Prior to use, check with local authorities.

Could have saved us all a lot of problems to start with?
Posted by WayDownUnder
Member since Dec 2007
Member since Mar 2010
379 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 9:25 am to
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This listing does not mean that EPA approves, recommends, licenses, certifies or authorizes the use of COREXIT 9500 on an oil discharge


Well I stand corrected!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 9:30 am to
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Let's review... the EPA allowed dumping up to a million gallons of this stuff into the Gulf
There's only one solution. Impeach Obama.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31768 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 9:47 am to
VII.
TOXICITY AND EFFECTIVENESS
a.
Toxicity
Material Tested
Species
LC50 (ppm)
COREXIT® EC9500A
Menidia beryllina
25.20 96-hr
Mysidopsis bahia
32.23 48-hr
No. 2 Fuel Oil
Menidia beryllina
10.72 96-hr
Mysidopsis bahia
16.12 48-hr
COREXIT® EC9500A &
Menidia beryllina
2.61 96-hr
No. 2 Fuel Oil (1:10)
Mysidopsis bahia
3.40 48-hr
Reference Toxicant (SDS)
Menidia beryllina
7.07 96-hr
Mysidopsis bahia
9.82 48-hr
NOTE: This toxicity data was derived using the concentrated product. See Section VI of this bulletin for information regarding the manufacturer’s recommendations for concentrations and application rates for field use.
b. Effectiveness: SWIRLING FLASK DISPERSANT EFFECTIVENESS TEST WITH SOUTH LOUISIANA (S/L) AND PRUDHOE BAY (P/B) CRUDE OILS Oil Effectiveness (%) Prudhoe Bay Crude 45.3 South Louisiana Crude 54.7 Average of Prudhoe Bay and South Louisiana Crudes 50.0
VIII. MICROBIOLOGICAL PROPERTIES NA
IX. PHYSICAL PROPERTIES
1.
Flash Point: 181.4°F
2.
Pour Point: <-71°F
3.
Viscosity: 22.5 cst at 104°F
4.
Specific Gravity: 0.95 at 60°F
5.
pH: 6.2
6.
Chemical Name and Percentage by Weight of the Total Formulation: CONFIDENTIAL
7.
Surface Active Agents: CONFIDENTIAL
8.
Solvents: CONFIDENTIAL
9.
Additives: None
10.
Solubility: Miscible

X. ANALYSIS FOR HEAVY METALS, CYANIDE, AND CHLORINATED HYDROCARBONS Compound Concentration (ppm) Arsenic 0.16 Cadmium ND Chromium 0.03 Copper 0.10 Lead ND Mercury ND Nickel ND Zinc ND Cyanide ND Chlorinated hydrocarbons ND

.pdf

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This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 10:01 am
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23773 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Too late to fire Lisa Jackson... she's already done her damage. Time to investigate how much she raked in personally, because it's hard to imagine how a responsible person would have approved this stuff.


Check out her history in New Jersey when she was head of their DEQ. She let polluters clean up their own super-fund sites. She is another example piss poor appointments.
Posted by RPC4LSU
Thibodaux, LA
Member since Jan 2006
2041 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 11:44 am to
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Also known as , EC9500 (EC stands for Exxon Chemical, Nalco was once owned by Exxon).

Nalco was never owned by Exxon. Nalco and Exxon had joint venture at one time. I believe it was part of Nalco's process chemical's division.
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:38 pm to
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Too late to fire Lisa Jackson.


isn't she from new orleans?

so much for looking out for her own?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48887 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

it's hard to imagine how a responsible person would have approved this stuff.


Hope and Change baby, Hope and Change
Posted by Eauxkie Tiger
Elk City, OK
Member since Sep 2003
1085 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 6:22 pm to
Not exactly. MSDS for Corexit

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This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 6:29 pm
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17361 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 6:38 pm to
i don't know all the details of the dispersant. again, we all have "connections", but my connections, specifically some gentlemen who work for marathon advised me that the best thing that can be done for now is using the dispersant.

all those oil plumes you hear about, thats oil that has collected due to the dispersant that will mostly drop to the floor and "disperse". thats the point of the "dispersant".

if it weren't for the dispersant then the beaches would be much more black than they are now.

however who the hell knows what will really happen short term or long term

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This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

NOTE: This toxicity data was derived using the concentrated product. See Section VI of this bulletin for information regarding the manufacturer’s recommendations for concentrations and application rates for field use.
Doesn't tell us anything about what happens when applied at the extremely diluted levels it's being used at...
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34205 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

all those oil plumes you hear about, thats oil that has collected due to the dispersant that will mostly drop to the floor and "disperse". thats the point of the "dispersant".


Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19278 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 8:04 am to
Careful there Rex, you know who is raping the nation w/ their product ? Here is a little list of the crooks involved in Nalco; Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, George Soros, Apollo, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Hathaway Berkshire, Tony Rezko, BARACK OBAMA ! Yes sir, do a little digging and you can find the devils in the details here.
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