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re: TAMU and Va Tech per ESPN radio

Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by redneck
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:20 pm to
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ESPN goes with the PAC-10 and 70% of the country is sleeping durring any night game.




good point


and also, as i stated yesterday, if FSU comes to the SEC we lock up the entire state of florida. having lived in florida for 10 years, UM only has about 5% of the state. the other 95% are UF/FSU. no one in the state gives a shite about miami
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:20 pm to
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A&M brings you more of the Houston, Dallas, and SA markets.



If you want Houston.... Add Rice
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:21 pm to
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I think DC is in the top 10 of TV markets. Thats why VT makes sense.

if people in DC don't watch college football, this doesn't really matter
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:22 pm to
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UT is going to the Pac-10.



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Not without A&M.


Not necessarily true. I think this was what that closed door meeting was about today. The state government didn't want Texas to leave A&M in a dysfunctional Big XII. But if A&M gets in the SEC, then Texas to the PAC-42 isn't a big deal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:22 pm to
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ESPN goes with the PAC-10 and 70% of the country is sleeping durring any night game.

they can offer 3 games every saturday night covering 3 separate time zones
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:23 pm to
You're trying to hard on this one, my man.
Posted by tigerguy121
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:24 pm to
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they can offer 3 games every saturday night covering 3 separate time zones


they still suffer the same problem you mentioned for DC.

If no one watches who cares?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:25 pm to
VT is not a national program and doesn't bring much, if anything, academically

TAMU brings solid academics and a huge fanbase/endowment

the markets TAMU brings are markets who watch football, so i'll give you that too

but we have to ensure we have MAJOR increases in the ESPN/CBS deals before making any expansion talk or we risk fricking ourselves

VT/TAMU, regional programs with almost no national following and a mediocre football existence are not worth that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:25 pm to
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they still suffer the same problem you mentioned for DC.

If no one watches who cares?

their markets > 1 market

odds are the pac10 goes the cable route, where they force the channel on millions of non-CFB fans
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:26 pm to
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but we have to ensure we have MAJOR increases in the ESPN/CBS deals before making any expansion talk or we risk fricking ourselves


Agreed.
Posted by tigerguy121
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:27 pm to
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odds are the pac10 goes the cable route, where they force the channel on millions of non-CFB fans


which increases the pressure on ESPN/CBS to pony up more to lock up teams
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:28 pm to
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which increases the pressure on ESPN/CBS to pony up more to lock up teams

no it doesn't

why would ESPN care?

ESPN and ESPN are on basic cable

the pac16 network and the big10 networks are on sports tiers

ESPN has us locked up
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:28 pm to
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they can offer 3 games every saturday night covering 3 separate time zones


It's going to be FOX.

They've been waiting for an opportunity to get back into major coverage of college football since being awarded the BCS.

FOX will nationally televise three Pac-42 games a weekend, ABC will hang on to the Big North-32, and CBS and ESPN will have the SEC.

The interesting thing will be how Disney handles the ABC v. ESPN dynamic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:29 pm to
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The interesting thing will be how Disney handles the ABC v. ESPN dynamic.

this has been an issue that turns into a non-issue every year
Posted by SeattleTiger19
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:29 pm to
Texas to the PAC 10 does not make much sense. The whole idea favors the current PAC 10 schools except Arizona and Arizona State. So USC just has to beat out Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, CAL, Stanford and UCLA and if they play three non-conference games they would only play two schools from basically the Big 12 at most. Then the PAC 10 still does not want a title game. So they would not have to play the big football schools for the PAC 10 title. Then they want two BCS bids which could make it is an undefeated Texas versus an undefeated USC because neither plays each other in the conference? That makes no sense for college football. It would actually knock the BCS system down a peg and I did not think that was possible.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:30 pm to
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VT/TAMU, regional programs with almost no national following


both are 2nd tier nationally followed programs, imo.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:30 pm to
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VT is not a national program and doesn't bring much, if anything, academically
You're just talking out of your arse now. VT is one of the most respected engineering schools in the country. Particularly in the northeast. It's probably the northern most ag school and it has a great reputation. (NOTE: I don't want to get in the pissing contest over which engineering school is best -- I don't care -- but to say VT doesn't bring anything academically is just painfully false)

And OF COURSE schools are regional brands. If you care about brininging in markets, you care about its regional appeal. the national appeal is from the SEC brand.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:31 pm to
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this has been an issue that turns into a non-issue every year


Probably, but this realignment will definitely bring it to the forefront of meeting of Disney's executive board.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:32 pm to
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but to say VT doesn't bring anything academically is just painfully false

if you're' bringing 1 department to a conference, you ain't bringing nothing

all of my UVA friends completely rag on VTs academics like they're UT and VT is LSU

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the national appeal is from the SEC brand.

i don't know how much national appeal we have. we just have a lot of diehards regionally

and why frick up whatever our appeal is?
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:32 pm to
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Mizzou having St. Louis and KC is probably a better grab than VT financially. Maybe even better than FSU.



I agree with this. FSU adds no new significant market.
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