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Single Scenes That Nearly Ruin Great Movies
Posted on 3/13/10 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/13/10 at 11:18 am
I'll start with an obvious example:
American Beauty
Great movie. Well written, great performances by Kevin Spacey, Annette Bening, and Chris Cooper. Its compelling and moving. The cinematography is great. Overall, just a well made piece of film.
But this:
Almost single-handedly ruins the movie for me. Beyond the fact that it is inherently stupid, the dialogue which accompanies it ("You wanna see the most beautiful thing I ever filmed?" "This bag was just... dancing with me." "That's the day I realized that there was this entire life behind things") makes it almost unbearable. It didn't quite ruin the entire film, but damn its close.
American Beauty
Great movie. Well written, great performances by Kevin Spacey, Annette Bening, and Chris Cooper. Its compelling and moving. The cinematography is great. Overall, just a well made piece of film.
But this:
Almost single-handedly ruins the movie for me. Beyond the fact that it is inherently stupid, the dialogue which accompanies it ("You wanna see the most beautiful thing I ever filmed?" "This bag was just... dancing with me." "That's the day I realized that there was this entire life behind things") makes it almost unbearable. It didn't quite ruin the entire film, but damn its close.
This post was edited on 3/13/10 at 11:22 am
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Posted on 3/13/10 at 11:31 am to OBUDan
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You know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else
Posted on 3/13/10 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't know if I'd call any of the XMEN movies great, but I agree that line was corny as frick
Posted on 3/13/10 at 11:40 am to The Easter Bunny
I read an interview with the screenwriter, and he was ticked that Halle Berry mangled the line, so he looks like a moron. It's supposed to be a dismissive comment, as in "we're all equally worthless", but she delivers it like its some booming, meaningful line. Maybe he's being defensive, but I do think Berry is a pretty lousy actress.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 11:41 am to SlowFlowPro
frick. That is bad.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 11:42 am to Baloo
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Maybe he's being defensive, but I do think Berry is a pretty lousy actress.
No doubt about that. Her Oscar is a sham.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 11:46 am to OBUDan
Oh, my one scene that sticks in ym craw: Contact. Unlike many, I really liked the movie as an interesting argument between faith and reason. But, in the scene in which they reveal the 18 hours of static.... it gives the "Reason" people an out. It was cheap. The whole point is that the firm advocate reason is now an advocate of faith, essentially, and this cheapens her conversion as it is shown she is correct in her faith. Leaps of faith don't get factual verification.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 12:37 pm to OBUDan
Not that Big Daddy is a great film, but there's a standing ovation in a courtroom toward the end. That is never necessary, and it ruins any movie--even an unruinable one.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 12:55 pm to Baloo
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Oh, my one scene that sticks in ym craw: Contact. Unlike many, I really liked the movie as an interesting argument between faith and reason. But, in the scene in which they reveal the 18 hours of static.... it gives the "Reason" people an out. It was cheap. The whole point is that the firm advocate reason is now an advocate of faith, essentially, and this cheapens her conversion as it is shown she is correct in her faith. Leaps of faith don't get factual verification.
Good call. But I think you needed something slight there that would have hinted at what the 18 hours of static did.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 1:09 pm to Freauxzen
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince was pretty good up until the end, and then it becomes irredeemable. First of all the movie never says that Snape turned in the prophecy, which is an extremely relevant plot point to the overall series, and I'm not sure how Harry is going to know about the cup in the final movie since they don't show that flashback of Voldemort. It seems that Yates will sacrifice the plot for meaningless character development, and this is the one film in the series he should not have directed.
But the thing that gets me is Snape and Harry's confrontation. In the novel it is extremely emotional and each character passionate about the scene, and Snape flips out, especially with the "Don't call me a coward!" line. In the movie Snape doesn't give two shits about what has just transpired and what Harry has said to him. Plus Harry calling Snape a coward in the film doesn't make much sense since Harry has no idea he turned in the prophesy.
And for the final kick in the balls they omit Dumbledore's funeral and replace it with some wandlight ceremony I don't give a damn about. They couldn't have fricked up that ending anymore if they tried, which is a shame since it was so great in the novel.
But the thing that gets me is Snape and Harry's confrontation. In the novel it is extremely emotional and each character passionate about the scene, and Snape flips out, especially with the "Don't call me a coward!" line. In the movie Snape doesn't give two shits about what has just transpired and what Harry has said to him. Plus Harry calling Snape a coward in the film doesn't make much sense since Harry has no idea he turned in the prophesy.
And for the final kick in the balls they omit Dumbledore's funeral and replace it with some wandlight ceremony I don't give a damn about. They couldn't have fricked up that ending anymore if they tried, which is a shame since it was so great in the novel.
This post was edited on 3/13/10 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 3/13/10 at 1:10 pm to OBUDan
the end of Terminator 1 with the outdated and extremely choppy animation
Others have disagreed with me on here about it, but it still kills me
Others have disagreed with me on here about it, but it still kills me
Posted on 3/13/10 at 1:49 pm to OBUDan
Patrick Swayze inexplicably ripping the dude's throat out in Road House was pretty much a movie killer.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 1:58 pm to shutterspeed
Just something recent onmy mind....
Where they dropped a beat and they made Depp pop lock in Alice in Wonderland. I literally cringed during that scene. That was rediculous. They could have him be good at some tradition dace or something, anything other than what they did.
Where they dropped a beat and they made Depp pop lock in Alice in Wonderland. I literally cringed during that scene. That was rediculous. They could have him be good at some tradition dace or something, anything other than what they did.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 2:08 pm to OMLandshark
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Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince was pretty good up until the end, and then it becomes irredeemable. First of all the movie never says that Snape turned in the prophecy, which is an extremely relevant plot point to the overall series, and I'm not sure how Harry is going to know about the cup in the final movie since they don't show that flashback of Voldemort. It seems that Yates will sacrifice the plot for meaningless character development, and this is the one film in the series he should not have directed.
But the thing that gets me is Snape and Harry's confrontation. In the novel it is extremely emotional and each character passionate about the scene, and Snape flips out, especially with the "Don't call me a coward!" line. In the movie Snape doesn't give two shits about what has just transpired and what Harry has said to him. Plus Harry calling Snape a coward in the film doesn't make much sense since Harry has no idea he turned in the prophesy.
And for the final kick in the balls they omit Dumbledore's funeral and replace it with some wandlight ceremony I don't give a damn about. They couldn't have fricked up that ending anymore if they tried, which is a shame since it was so great in the novel.
That pissed me off to no end. (Warning: SPOILER FOR UPCOMING MOVIES) At the end of the book most people come to the conclusion that Snape has gone to Voldemort's side and that he killed Dumbledore for him, which we find out later is obviously not true. The movie makes it look like Snape is doing the right thing or maybe even what Dumbledore told him to do. That is the best twist of the book that the movie has now ruined.
This post was edited on 3/13/10 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 3/13/10 at 2:28 pm to tuck
Snape kills Dumbledore? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Posted on 3/13/10 at 3:36 pm to shutterspeed
quote:
Patrick Swayze inexplicably ripping the dude's throat out in Road House was pretty much a movie killer.
I thought the stuffed bear falling on the guy ruined the "believability" of the movie. More specifically, the guy being scared of it.
This post was edited on 3/13/10 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/13/10 at 4:23 pm to OBUDan
The ending of Hot Fuzz almost ruins the movie for me. It was totally unnecessary, and completely unbelievable. That Sea Mine would've turned everything in that building into atoms.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 4:30 pm to Baloo
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Contact. Unlike many, I really liked the movie as an interesting argument between faith and reason. But, in the scene in which they reveal the 18 hours of static.... it gives the "Reason" people an out. It was cheap. The whole point is that the firm advocate reason is now an advocate of faith, essentially, and this cheapens her conversion as it is shown she is correct in her faith. Leaps of faith don't get factual verification.
I liked it too, I think you're right especially since its just revealed to the audience, its kind of cheap. Doesn't ruin the movie for me though.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 4:35 pm to H-Town Tiger
I would have been alright if Tropic Thunder didn't get so stupid with all the characters curing their emotional constipation while having bullets buzz by them for like 10 minutes. Plus Matthew showing up in the jungle out of nowhere was really stupid.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
You know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else
Nice.
I was actually discussing bad dialogue in movies with some of my coworkers the other day and that was the first example I came up with.
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