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Question about ACL injuries
Posted on 2/26/10 at 11:57 am
Posted on 2/26/10 at 11:57 am
Do you guys know if there are many dominant NFL players who underwent ACL repair in college or earlier? I realize many players come back after ACL repair, but I'm trying to get an idea of how fully they actually can recover. I think looking at how many people were able to recover and do well in the NFL might be a good indicator.
I ask the question on this forum because some of our key football players have undergone ACL surgery, which is what got me wondering about this.
I ask the question on this forum because some of our key football players have undergone ACL surgery, which is what got me wondering about this.
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Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:03 pm to Beer Gut
If I remember right, I think Drew Brees tore his ACL in high school.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:13 pm to Beer Gut
not sure but i think frank gore and willis mcgaee sp???
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:22 pm to bayoutiger08
Twenty years ago, it was a career ender.
Now, they've done so many of them and perfected the surgery that it's very easy to come back from - now multiple surgeries are another story - ask Deuce McAllister.
The technology is so much better now.
Now, they've done so many of them and perfected the surgery that it's very easy to come back from - now multiple surgeries are another story - ask Deuce McAllister.
The technology is so much better now.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:26 pm to dutchtowntiger100
It's a tough injury to come back. I k ow that some
skiers in the Olympics had it but not sure how well it does in football. I remember when I tore mine HBO did a documentary on two NFL players who were doing rehab at the same time. One was from the falcons the other was from the Broncos. Was it Davis and Anderson?
skiers in the Olympics had it but not sure how well it does in football. I remember when I tore mine HBO did a documentary on two NFL players who were doing rehab at the same time. One was from the falcons the other was from the Broncos. Was it Davis and Anderson?
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:07 pm to Beer Gut
didn't Joseph Addai ?
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:11 pm to Beer Gut
Pretty sure Frank Gore tore both his knees up in CFB...
Addai tore his ACL in HS...but LSU honored his scholarship...thankfully.
Lots of people have done it. I think a lot of players slow down in CFB after the injury. Some say despite it being about a year to recover and play(unless you're a freak healer like Ridley) it takes about 2-3 years to fully recover. That is why it seems like in CFB a lot of guys slow down in their careers like Alexander did...and it severely affects their draft status.
Addai tore his ACL in HS...but LSU honored his scholarship...thankfully.
Lots of people have done it. I think a lot of players slow down in CFB after the injury. Some say despite it being about a year to recover and play(unless you're a freak healer like Ridley) it takes about 2-3 years to fully recover. That is why it seems like in CFB a lot of guys slow down in their careers like Alexander did...and it severely affects their draft status.
This post was edited on 2/26/10 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:13 pm to DaBeerz
jaamal lewis is the most unbelievable example i can remember. blew out an acl late in his carrer at UT, got it repaired in the off season. declared early. ran a sub-4.4 fourty at the combine...later in the nfl, blew out the other knee (acl) and returned after that surgery to have multiple 1000 rushing seasons in the nfl. he is a special case
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:29 pm to Beer Gut
What about Deuce ?
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:33 pm to LSUTygerFan
Rod Woodson, a safety for the Steelers tore his ACL game 1 of the season and came back to play in the superbowl that year.
This post was edited on 2/26/10 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 2/26/10 at 3:13 pm to Beer Gut
Terry Allen became an All Pro NFL running back after blowing out BOTH knees (different injuries).
Posted on 2/26/10 at 3:19 pm to Beer Gut
i know matt forte of the bears underwent acl surgery his soph. or jr. year and recovered just fine... it's a surgery that nowadays i would imagine has a success rate of 75% or higher
Posted on 2/26/10 at 3:23 pm to nacho24
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nacho24
Didn't Deuce injure both knees in college?
Posted on 2/26/10 at 3:26 pm to Beer Gut
quote:I've understood the surgically reconstructed ACL to be more durable than the original. The recovery is the bitch.
I realize many players come back after ACL repair, but I'm trying to get an idea of how fully they actually can recover.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 3:33 pm to Beer Gut
Also, I believe Meachem tore up his knee during his freshman year at UT.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 3:36 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
Willis McGahee blew out his entire knee in his last game at Miami.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 4:11 pm to deuce985
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Some say despite it being about a year to recover and play(unless you're a freak healer like Ridley) it takes about 2-3 years to fully recover.
I tore mine during my first football game of my senior year. Had surgery September 17 and made it back to play soccer on January 13 and played for the whole season minus one game. From knife to release was right at 16 weeks. At the time I was the fastest that this doctor had released anyone, but I'm pretty sure most people are around 5 months now. At the time of my surgery, 2007, most people weren't at 90%(what most PT's and Dr's use as a standard) until about 6-7 months. And I'm pretty sure I would in no way be considered a "freak" like Ridley.
This post was edited on 2/26/10 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 2/26/10 at 4:17 pm to Beer Gut
Willis Magahee blew his knee totally out.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 4:19 pm to Jcorye1
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Willis Magahee blew his knee totally out
True, but didn't the OP say something about a "dominating" back?
Posted on 2/26/10 at 4:25 pm to Waldo17
Thanks guys, I find this all really interesting.
I've done a little research on this since my post. Apparently, one of the most common repair techniques is to resect a 9 or 10 mm width central portion of the patient's patellar tendon to use for the new ACL graft. They said the removed patellar tendon portion typically grows back in, and in fact eventually the patellar tendon may be thicker than it was before the surgery. Some studies showed that this type of ACL graft has about 112% strength of the native ACL. So in theory, the new tendon should be a little stronger than the old ACL.
Unfortunately, I read that there are a lot of other things that can cause problems after the surgery other than failure of the graft itself. Things like problems with scar formation in the joint and mechanical issues related to the graft not sucessfully being placed perfectly. Also, a lot of these guys have other injuries in the knee that make recovery more difficult.
What I read did say that the surgical techniques and outcomes have definitely gotten way better than they used to be, and it is possible to "fully" recover. The fact that there are some pretty good NFL guys who have done so proves in my mind that it is at least possible to get back to elite form. But then I wonder how good they would be had they never torn their ACL...
Thanks for all your comments, I appreciate it.
I've done a little research on this since my post. Apparently, one of the most common repair techniques is to resect a 9 or 10 mm width central portion of the patient's patellar tendon to use for the new ACL graft. They said the removed patellar tendon portion typically grows back in, and in fact eventually the patellar tendon may be thicker than it was before the surgery. Some studies showed that this type of ACL graft has about 112% strength of the native ACL. So in theory, the new tendon should be a little stronger than the old ACL.
Unfortunately, I read that there are a lot of other things that can cause problems after the surgery other than failure of the graft itself. Things like problems with scar formation in the joint and mechanical issues related to the graft not sucessfully being placed perfectly. Also, a lot of these guys have other injuries in the knee that make recovery more difficult.
What I read did say that the surgical techniques and outcomes have definitely gotten way better than they used to be, and it is possible to "fully" recover. The fact that there are some pretty good NFL guys who have done so proves in my mind that it is at least possible to get back to elite form. But then I wonder how good they would be had they never torn their ACL...
Thanks for all your comments, I appreciate it.
This post was edited on 2/26/10 at 4:31 pm
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