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Why weren't there 2 seconds added at Ole Miss?
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:42 pm
I'm seriously confused at the different ways the replays were used in the SEC (LSU vs Ole Miss) and the Big12 (Nebraska vs Texas).
Both coaches fricked up, but nonetheless the application of review of time remaining on the clock was obviously different.
Both coaches fricked up, but nonetheless the application of review of time remaining on the clock was obviously different.
This post was edited on 12/5/09 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:47 pm to JPLSU1981
"SEC REFS"
That explains it!!
That explains it!!
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:50 pm to JPLSU1981
Exactly right. We should have had 3 seconds against Ole Miss if they would have called it like they called this one. They wanted Texas to go to the championship game though. Too much money on the line.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:51 pm to JPLSU1981
I didn't think this was reviewable after the Ole Miss game, due to the fact that the clock only stops when the ref signals to stop it. If it is when it hits the ground or in our case, when the player hits the ground, we definitely got screwed!
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:53 pm to JPLSU1981
An incomplete pass stops the clock the second it hits the ground. The clock doesn't stop the second a player is down for a first down.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:59 pm to JPLSU1981
I hate being in the SEC.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:59 pm to JPLSU1981
I hate being in the SEC.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 11:16 pm to JPLSU1981
Because if the replay official would have signaled a stoppage in play at Ole Miss to review the time left after that play, he would have been killed.
If they added 2 seconds, we kick the field goal and win. Even if they didn't add any time, the time to review would have allowed us to get the kicking team on the field to try to kick the game winner.
In this game, the clock was stopped and there wasn't any issue.
If they added 2 seconds, we kick the field goal and win. Even if they didn't add any time, the time to review would have allowed us to get the kicking team on the field to try to kick the game winner.
In this game, the clock was stopped and there wasn't any issue.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 11:18 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
Why weren't there 2 seconds added at Ole Miss?
We lost. We were very lucky to beat Arkansas and Miss State. The breaks evened out.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 1:10 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
I'm seriously confused at the different ways the replays were used in the SEC (LSU vs Ole Miss) and the Big12 (Nebraska vs Texas).
Because a certain coach didn't ask for a review. Doesn't matter. As soon as the ref orders the 2 seconds added, he will blow his whistle to signal the ball ready for play. Do you really think Les had our team prepared to be on the line, ready to take the snap, the instant the official would announce such a decision? No way. The way it would go down - official would ask that three seconds be added - the ball is already ready for play, he blows the whistle, clock starts, and the game time runs out before LSU even gets to the line.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 2:14 am to JPLSU1981
McCoy threw an incomplete pass that hit the ground with 1 second left on the clock. The ABC crew showed a clock superimposed against the play that showed this. An incomplete pass stops the game clock. Therefore, Texas can run their FG unit out and snap the ball without time running out. The play clock doesn't start until the ball is snapped.
In the OM game, the LSU play caught the ball. The game clock is stopped to move the chains for the completion. However, once the ball is set and the ref blows his whistle, the game clock begins to run. Time ran out while Jefferson was spiking the ball.
I don't think the "nefarious ref" angle is going to work in this situation.
In the OM game, the LSU play caught the ball. The game clock is stopped to move the chains for the completion. However, once the ball is set and the ref blows his whistle, the game clock begins to run. Time ran out while Jefferson was spiking the ball.
I don't think the "nefarious ref" angle is going to work in this situation.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 2:46 am to JPLSU1981
Judging from the call that Texas got tonight we should have had THREE seconds added at Ole Miss.
Ridonkulous.
Ridonkulous.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 3:10 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
I'm seriously confused at the different ways the replays were used in the SEC (LSU vs Ole Miss) and the Big12 (Nebraska vs Texas).
Both coaches fricked up, but nonetheless the application of review of time remaining on the clock was obviously different.
It's simply because in one instances time was left on the clock and in the other there was no time left. Right or wrong, that's it.
In the LSU game, the officials didnt exactly have much time to make a determination on wheter they should review.
Had Tolliver made the catch with :02 left then the clock went to :01(meaning we never tried the spike), I'd be willing to bet the play woulda been reviewed, without question.
And that is the answer, right or wrong by the refs, that is why the 2 situations were different.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 6:43 am to JPLSU1981
even if we beat ole miss, we still play in the capitol one bowl. relax.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:19 am to JPLSU1981
so that Miles would have another reason not to have the field goal team on the field like Texas did with 1 second.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 1:43 pm to JPLSU1981
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Why weren't there 2 seconds added at Ole Miss?
You do realize that there was no spike because JJ never got the snap off right?
You are talking about two completely different situations. LSU ran out of time and didn't get the snap off. Texas threw the ball out of bounds with a questionable 1 second left.
Totally different. This thread is dumb.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 4:11 pm to JPLSU1981
McCoy got lucky: The overule was fair.
Jefferson got unlucky: His coaches didn't have a clue.
Jefferson got unlucky: His coaches didn't have a clue.
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