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Please stop bringing up the 90s to defend mediocre seasons
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:35 am
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:35 am
Quit accepting the illiterate cow bowl/cotton bowl/etc. just because they are bowls we would have loved to go to ~20 years ago. I am not old enough to fully remember the "bad" years with Curly and Dinardo, but it has absolutely nothing at all to do with what happens now.
Just because we had bad years, and loved the fact that we even got to play in a bowl, does not mean we have to settle for mediocrity now. And no, this younger generation is not made up of bandwagon fans that hopped o after the 2003 season.
If you can't acknowledge the fact that LSU has won TWO championships in the past few years and is now an elite program (yes, we are an elite college football program), then go cheer for a school that settles for a ho-hum bowl every year. Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
Just because we had bad years, and loved the fact that we even got to play in a bowl, does not mean we have to settle for mediocrity now. And no, this younger generation is not made up of bandwagon fans that hopped o after the 2003 season.
If you can't acknowledge the fact that LSU has won TWO championships in the past few years and is now an elite program (yes, we are an elite college football program), then go cheer for a school that settles for a ho-hum bowl every year. Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:37 am to ZackMorrisPhone
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Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
And here in lies the problem....kids, psshh.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:43 am to ZackMorrisPhone
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Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
Then you're in for a miserable life.Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:47 am to ZackMorrisPhone
It's not settling, it's supporting your team. I spent 8 years at LSU, and I don't have any other team to cheer for. I show up to games and cheer for my Tigers because I love being on campus and I love the circumstance that surrounds the games. I don't boo or say we should fire the coaches because IT IS GAME. A dumb arse game, due to inability to constantly enforce the rules, that isn't played with a round ball. That means it doesn't always bounce your way. We've had success and I was proud. We fight though adversity, and I remain proud. It's not time to pack it up and fire everyone in the hopes that we get what you think we deserve. It's NEVER time for that. It's cyclical in nature, and you have to believe that we will be back to fight harder the next time. It's game played by 20 year olds. We won on veteran leadership, and we lose when we don't have that. I don't see why you think the sky is falling. It's LSU. If you think bitching and moaning will lead to more wins, go ahead. I don't think it works. We have to hope our boys gain the confidence that comes through overcoming adversity. If they don't, they still did us proud by trying.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:47 am to ZackMorrisPhone
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Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
wow, really? say we go 10-2 and go to a cotton or any Jan 1 or 2 bowl, you think thats a "down season"? Hell, even if we go 9-3 and win the bowl game i wouldn't consider it a "down season". 8-4 would be, but not 9+ wins (with a chance to win 10). if that happened year in and year out for say 5 years, then yeah i can see it. but not two years removed from a NC. I understand last year is defiantly effecting people’s opinions (and rightfully so) but i don't think things are near as bad as some people are making it out to be.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:49 am to ZackMorrisPhone
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does not mean we have to settle for mediocrity now.
once again what is mediocre about being 8-2 and #10 in the country?
you have started a similar thread LINK before. We get it, you don't like Miles
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:52 am to ZackMorrisPhone
I mostly agree. We are an elite program and we have to be disappointed if we don't make it to the SEC Championship. We're at the level where's it realistic for our goal at the start of the season to be an SEC Championship appearance. You can only hope for any more than that though.
That being said, this season has gone as good as I could have expected or predicted at the beginning of the year. I said we'd lose one of Florida and UGA and one of Bama and Ole Miss. It just hurts how we lost this year considering we had realistic opportunities to win each game (especially Bama).
That being said, this season has gone as good as I could have expected or predicted at the beginning of the year. I said we'd lose one of Florida and UGA and one of Bama and Ole Miss. It just hurts how we lost this year considering we had realistic opportunities to win each game (especially Bama).
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:54 am to ZackMorrisPhone
quote:That is why we are trying to enlighten you.
I am not old enough to fully remember the "bad" years with Curly and Dinardo
quote:Yes it is, and here's evidence
this younger generation is not made up of bandwagon fans that hopped o after the 2003 season.
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Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:59 am to ZackMorrisPhone
Im probably just a bit older than you. I am old enough to fully remember the dinardo years and just a bit of the curley. The reason why people bring it up is because idiots believe that 10-2 with a top tier new years day bowl is mediocre when it isnt. Dinardo was mediocre he made three bowls and choked when we should have been great. We were clemson under Tommy bowden. That is mediocre. 10-2 consistantly and constantly in the hunt for the sec is elite. Im sure you would consider USC elite. They havent done better than that since matt leinart. We are not mediocre.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:00 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
Actually I agree with Zack to a point. We are going to have about as many good and bad years, and the good ones will have us in the SEC championship game. But everytime we have a down year, people need to stop saying crying that the world is ending and that it means we are inevitably sliding into "mediocrity" back to the 90s with Curly and Dinardo.
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:01 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
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Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
You're going need alot of these
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:05 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
The letdown of this LSU team is not the fact that they aren't winning the SEC or National Title this year.
It's that offense looks like a chinese firedrill, the players look confused, the coaches act like there's no such thing as in-game adjustments, and even though the defense has been playing well at times they look like high school athletes playing against college athletes.
In a lot of ways, some of those horrible and/or medicore 90's teams looked more like the LSU we all grew up than this crap we've been seeing this year.
That is the letdown as far as I'm concerned.
It's that offense looks like a chinese firedrill, the players look confused, the coaches act like there's no such thing as in-game adjustments, and even though the defense has been playing well at times they look like high school athletes playing against college athletes.
In a lot of ways, some of those horrible and/or medicore 90's teams looked more like the LSU we all grew up than this crap we've been seeing this year.
That is the letdown as far as I'm concerned.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:07 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
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I am not old enough to fully remember the "bad" years with Curly and Dinardo
Our cultures working definition of a "moron" is someone who joins a discussion as if they have all the facts but lacks said facts and runs his mouth anyway. You fit that definition perfectly! You lack a little something we call "context". If all you have ever know is LSU beginning with the Saban era then your view of LSU football is misinformed. I would say you haven't even paid attention for many of the season this past decade because 8-2 with 2 to go would have been considered on par or better for the team we had on the field. History is important. You should learn this lesson.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:20 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
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Quit accepting the illiterate cow bowl/cotton bowl/etc
i don't know what this means.
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I am not old enough to fully remember the "bad" years with Curly and Dinardo, but it has absolutely nothing at all to do with what happens now.
I am. And they give some perspective to what is going on now. It is a lot easier to appreciate an average season if you've live through below average seasons.
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Just because we had bad years, and loved the fact that we even got to play in a bowl, does not mean we have to settle for mediocrity now.
i agree, but what is going on today is not mediocrity--again, perspective.
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And no, this younger generation is not made up of bandwagon fans that hopped o after the 2003 season.
i'm not so sure but the younger generation has experienced an extraordinary level of success which the averaged age fan has not.
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If you can't acknowledge the fact that LSU has won TWO championships in the past few years and is now an elite program (yes, we are an elite college football program), then go cheer for a school that settles for a ho-hum bowl every year. Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
i can not only acknowledge that but revel in it. yes, we are elite. so was fla st. so was ND. there are ebbs and flows in every program. the point is not to think you're always going to be at the pinnacle so that you can actually enjoy a year that does not yield a SEC championship.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:48 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
Here we go again. Another thinly veiled indictment of Les Miles and his coaching abilities.
Then you have no perspective to speak from. I was in the stands the night Southern Miss handed us or asses (along with many other similar games). I know what a mediocre LSU team looks like. This team is not mediocre or poorly coached.
Textbook definition of "unrealistic expectations." I'll take, for instance, Steve Spurrier in his heyday at Florida. 1 national title and 6 SEC championship in 13 years. This LSU program under Miles can accomplish that. But even the great Ol' Ball Coach couldn't win the SEC every year. Were his teams a letdown or underachievers? I guess he sucks too then. And we'll probably never see a run like that in the SEC ever again, due to the parity in talent and the top flight coaches every team has now.
I'll take 10 win seasons, top 5 finishes, an SEC championship every couple of years...and throw in a MNC once in awhile. This program is set up to do just that. WTF is wrong with people that they can't see that?
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I am not old enough to fully remember the "bad" years with Curly and Dinardo
Then you have no perspective to speak from. I was in the stands the night Southern Miss handed us or asses (along with many other similar games). I know what a mediocre LSU team looks like. This team is not mediocre or poorly coached.
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Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season.
Textbook definition of "unrealistic expectations." I'll take, for instance, Steve Spurrier in his heyday at Florida. 1 national title and 6 SEC championship in 13 years. This LSU program under Miles can accomplish that. But even the great Ol' Ball Coach couldn't win the SEC every year. Were his teams a letdown or underachievers? I guess he sucks too then. And we'll probably never see a run like that in the SEC ever again, due to the parity in talent and the top flight coaches every team has now.
I'll take 10 win seasons, top 5 finishes, an SEC championship every couple of years...and throw in a MNC once in awhile. This program is set up to do just that. WTF is wrong with people that they can't see that?
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:50 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
[quote]Quit accepting the illiterate cow bowl/cotton bowl/etc. just because they are bowls we would have loved to go to ~20 years ago. I am not old enough to fully remember the "bad" years with Curly and Dinardo, but it has absolutely nothing at all to do with what happens now.
Then you have no perspective
Just because we had bad years, and loved the fact that we even got to play in a bowl, does not mean we have to settle for mediocrity now. And no, this younger generation is not made up of bandwagon fans that hopped o after the 2003 season.
This post proves otherwise, sonnyboy.
If you can't acknowledge the fact that LSU has won TWO championships in the past few years and is now an elite program (yes, we are an elite college football program), then go cheer for a school that settles for a ho-hum bowl every year. Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season
Says a kid with zero perspective or knowledge of football and it's VERY cyclical nature.
Then you have no perspective
Just because we had bad years, and loved the fact that we even got to play in a bowl, does not mean we have to settle for mediocrity now. And no, this younger generation is not made up of bandwagon fans that hopped o after the 2003 season.
This post proves otherwise, sonnyboy.
If you can't acknowledge the fact that LSU has won TWO championships in the past few years and is now an elite program (yes, we are an elite college football program), then go cheer for a school that settles for a ho-hum bowl every year. Anything less than SEC championships is a let down season
Says a kid with zero perspective or knowledge of football and it's VERY cyclical nature.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:55 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
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Anything less than challenging SEC championships is a let down season.
fixed.
Can't do it every year.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:59 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
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I am not old enough to fully remember the "bad" years with Curly and Dinardo, but it has absolutely nothing at all to do with what happens now.
I am so fricking jealous...and you are right.
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Just because we had bad years, and loved the fact that we even got to play in a bowl, does not mean we have to settle for mediocrity now.
I doubt the team or coaches are settling for anything. What most people refuse to understand is that the dynamic in the $EC west and Louisiana has changed dramaticly since saban left LSU after his 'mediocre' season in '04. When saban was here Bama was down because of another cheating (imagine that) scandal and the loss of tv and schollies...ole miss was down because they were still fighting the civil war...moo st was down because, well...everyone knows starkville is a blackhole in the universe...arkansas was decent and Nutt is always a formidable opponent...the aubies were the only team that could compete (see Bama loss of schollies) and Tuberville could, on occasion, coach a good game.
Fast forward to the now...the $EC west is loaded with talented, agressive coaches who not only know how to win...but are siphoning off much of the talent we used to get. This is not an excuse for Miles but is a realistic look at how much harder the job has become since saban fricked us in the arse and Katrina-Rita savaged many Louisiana HS football programs.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:04 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
Wow...We have some kid telling us to quit bringing up the past (1990s), yet his name and avatar are from a TV series that originally aired in 1989 (1987 if you count the junior high years).
Classic idotic post from an idiotic kid to young to remember both the ups and downs of LSU football over the years.
Classic idotic post from an idiotic kid to young to remember both the ups and downs of LSU football over the years.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:09 pm to ZackMorrisPhone
And since when do ranters consider SEC Championships a success? If there is not national title we have talk of fire our coach. Hell even the last time we won a title people were wanting Bo to go. LSU has fans who are never happy.
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