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Why is Buffett buying a railroad?
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:09 am
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:09 am
especially why is he buying it now?
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Buffett's Berkshire buys Burlington Northern rail
NEW YORK – Making a $34 billion bet on the future of the U.S. economy, Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc. on Tuesday agreed to buy Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp.
"Berkshire's $34 billion investment in BNSF is a huge bet on that company, CEO Matt Rose and his team, and the railroad industry," Buffett said in a statement.
"Most important of all, however, it's an all-in wager on the economic future of the United States. I love these bets," he said.
Berkshire Hathaway already owns about 22 percent of Burlington Northern, and said it will pay $100 a share in cash and stock for the rest of the company, a 31.5 percent premium on Burlington Northern's Monday closing price. Shareholders have the option to convert their stock for a cash payment of $100 per share or receive Berkshire Class A or Class B common stock. Up to 60 percent of the deal is cash and 40 percent is in stock.
The majority of the stock in the deal will be Berkshire's "A" shares, but Berkshire's board also approved a 50-for-1 split of its Class B common stock for holders of smaller amounts of Burlington shares who opt for a share exchange rather than cash. Berkshire's Class B shares closed Monday at $3,265. With the split, each share will be worth $65.30. Burlington shares closed Monday at $76.07. Burlington shares shot up $21.56, or 28.4 percent, to $97.63 in morning trading. Shares of other major rails rose as well.
The deal has been approved by the boards of both companies. It would be the biggest acquisition ever for Berkshire Hathaway Inc.
Berkshire also owns MidAmerican Energy Holdings, which controls power companies in the Midwest and Pacific Northwest. The railroad could be a strategic acquisition because its tracks run right through both regions, a major coal supply route for power plants.
The chairman of MidAmerican Energy has come out vocally against climate change legislation which targets coal-fired power plants.
Burlington Northern Santa Fe is the country's second-largest railroad with a market capitalization — the market value of the company's outstanding shares — of about $25.9 billion.
Last month the company reported third-quarter profit dropped 30 percent to $488 million, or $1.42 per share, as people continued to hold back on purchasing goods from stores and industrial production continued to struggle.
This post was edited on 11/3/09 at 9:14 am
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:25 am to supatigah
The railroads will be used to send anti-Obama people to internment camps.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:33 am to supatigah
He likes playing with choo-choo trains and always wanted to ride the rails IRL.
Either that or he thinks it's a good business.
Either that or he thinks it's a good business.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:37 am to foshizzle
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especially why is he buying it now?
As opposed to when it almost got to 50? No idea. He was loading up on it in the 60's & 70's so maybe it's significantly undervalued? What about the Class B shares for 65? Load up?
Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:44 am to supatigah
Buffett spoke of his penchant for railroads back in 2005-06, listing the same reasons as today -- fuel efficiency.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:59 am to supatigah
It's the most efficient way for him to move his money around the country.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 11:02 am to coolpapaboze
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It's the most efficient way for him to move his money around the country.
i was going to insert an ayn rand joke here but you've pretty much already won the thread.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:34 pm to coolpapaboze
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It's the most efficient way for him to move his money around the country.
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Posted on 11/4/09 at 5:25 pm to Hanrendar
Dollar crashing===exports increasing astronomically/manufacturing is reborn===need trains for transport.
Posted on 11/4/09 at 6:46 pm to RollTide4Ever
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exports increasing astronomically/manufacturing is reborn
The crash will hurt us all, but the result will bring the manufacturing sector roaring back to like.
Posted on 11/4/09 at 7:34 pm to 91TIGER
Yet NX was a half percentage point subtraction in Q3 GDP.
Posted on 11/4/09 at 8:43 pm to kfizzle85
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Yet NX was a half percentage point subtraction in Q3 GDP.
Me and my pops were talking about this last night actually. Very concerning considering the tanking the dollar has had this year.
Posted on 11/4/09 at 9:54 pm to supatigah
He's expecting the dollar to continue to be devalued which will cause fuel prices to continue to increase. This will make shipping by trucks much more expensive which will force people to ship bt rail roads.
That's my guess.
That's my guess.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 11:16 am to djmicrobe
Why does buffet buy any of his investments?
Because he believes it's at the bottom and has a significant chance for upside movement. Nothing out of the ordinary to me for a Buffet investment
Because he believes it's at the bottom and has a significant chance for upside movement. Nothing out of the ordinary to me for a Buffet investment
Posted on 11/6/09 at 4:57 pm to supatigah
Maybe he's planning for a future of high speed rail. Stands to reason one might want to replace existing rail with high speed rail, or lay high speed rail next to existing track, instead of having to secure right of ways for an entirely new set of tracks.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 5:25 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Maybe he's planning for a future of high speed rail.
That right there.
Imagine the government giving trillions in order to purchase everyone a bicycle, and you're the guy that owns the bike paths.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 6:35 pm to supatigah
If he gets the other three he gets $200 every time someone lands on it!
Posted on 11/6/09 at 6:49 pm to supatigah
Two reasons. The first is obvious. He is clearly anticipating a rise in fuel (oil) prices. The railroads business soars as the cost to ship increases for truck transport. Second, the RR union contracts are much different than the auto unions. They have the ability to radically cut operational costs by reducing their workforce with little penalty. BNSF furloughs engineers and maintenance staff all the time.
Another point. He now owns the right of way and he also bought a ton of dark fiber after the web crash.
Another point. He now owns the right of way and he also bought a ton of dark fiber after the web crash.
Posted on 11/6/09 at 7:11 pm to theCrusher
theCrusher, you sir are correct. No fuel surcharges. Plus rairoads are a very "green" form of transportation . One rail car can carry freight 436 miles on one gallon of fuel. Plus who the hell else is gonna get into the RR business, a ver very very high cost of entry.
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