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re: Another myth bites the dust

Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:22 pm to
a dual threat would imply Hatch also had ability to throw....
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:32 pm to
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Rummel

Of course he was being sarcastic.

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Bilj

If throwing is a requirement, then that disqualifies a lot of people. I just assumed it was someone at the QB position that ran just as much as he threw.

I liked Hatch. He wasn't scared to take a hit.
This post was edited on 8/6/09 at 9:33 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89980 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:33 pm to
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Don't roll your eyes at me, mister.

Well, I hope he was just being sarcastic...
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44582 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:35 pm to
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Thank you for being honest about how you rate players.


no prob

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Hatch was more of a dual-threat than Jefferson.


errrr... was being the operative word. and only because Hatch was playing while JJ was redshir... uhh... nursing his shoulder injury. once young Jordan got some significant snaps under his belt, he was threatening teams all over the place. (occasionally we were the team being threatened by his inaccuracy, but it'll be ok, trust me.)

when you're able to move the ball effectively either as a pocket passer or on designed sweeps and draws, well, you're a dual threat. you may threaten more in one area than the other, but you're still threatening in both.
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:38 pm to
Lee on QB and growth...
quote:

“We’ve really pushed each other and have learned together and really grown up mentally,” Lee said. “I learned a lot during last season about being more patient and trusting in guys and understanding how important it is to let them make plays.

“I think I’ve grown up a lot as a person and as a player,” Lee said. “I’ve been watching film, hitting the weights and learning from my mistakes. I feel like my maturity level has gone up tremendously.”


Jefferson on Lee and QB position...
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“Jarrett is a very fierce competitor, but he’s shown me a lot of the different things I need to do better,” Jefferson said. “He’s very good in our passing game and a lot of people don’t realize that even though he threw some interceptions, he threw a lot more good passes.”

“Coach Crowton is going to make sure we’re both ready to go and know what we need to do when he puts us out there,” Jefferson said. “I’m very confident that I can be the starter for this team and we can be good. But if there are some times when Jarrett needs to come in and gives us the best chance to win, I’m good with that.”


This post was edited on 8/6/09 at 9:40 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423521 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:54 pm to
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That JJ was the better QB because he was a dual threat.

JJ is much faster than lee
This post was edited on 8/6/09 at 9:55 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423521 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:55 pm to
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No one ever seriously mentioned JL and option in the same sentence

the writer didn't say he ran the ball better than JJ

the writer said he was better at the faking involved in the option
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423521 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:57 pm to
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Jefferson being a "dual threat" is another myth that needs to bite the dust. He has been listed as a pro-style since he was in high school.

he is pro-style

he isn't a great runner yet b/c he's been a pro style QB

he's still very fast for a 6-4 QB and can throw on the run, and therefore he's mobile
This post was edited on 8/6/09 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:58 pm to
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That shockingly, JL looked better at the dual part of the threat. But as has been said, it is early, and a non-contract drill.
um... the 'dual' aspect of a 'dual-threat' quarterback means the quarterback throws and runs really well... not that he throws and pitches and fakes really well.
This post was edited on 8/6/09 at 10:02 pm
Posted by adam32
CONWAY, AR
Member since Aug 2006
4629 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 9:59 pm to
lee is a tiger you ungrateful fricks you should be cheering for him to be successful cause we may need his services. keep it up you bastards.
Posted by NWAustinTigers
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2004
441 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 10:01 pm to
Didn't say he ran better...he actually delivered the ball better and ran better fakes. Nothing about running ability. A defense is not going to respect Lee running the ball. Horn fan go home...maybe Kindle will need a ride home so he can text drunk.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423521 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 10:03 pm to
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lee is a tiger you ungrateful fricks you should be cheering for him to be successful cause we may need his services. keep it up you bastards.

this thread is about his mobility, not his overall play
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80804 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 10:03 pm to
Who cares, JJ will start
Posted by NWAustinTigers
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2004
441 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 10:05 pm to
Rummel...NW Austin is doing well. Neb fan would be impressed with Tiger Stadium.
This post was edited on 8/6/09 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Aletheia
Member since Jun 2009
527 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 10:06 pm to
JJ's response to a journalist about his mobility...
quote:

"I lean toward both ways," Jefferson said in assessing his own game.

He did not mean, he said, that he is equally comfortable in both offenses (he prefers the traditional attack). But he is committed to making the play the situation requires.

"I'll use my athletic ability to run the ball when I have to, but my philosophy is throw it first and run second," he said. "I would like to get the yards by passing. I want to throw the ball, but I will make whatever play we think can beat you. That's basically how I play football."


Rivals, Scout, and ESPN ranked him as a "top 10 pro-style" QB out of high school.
Posted by adam32
CONWAY, AR
Member since Aug 2006
4629 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 10:08 pm to
i didn't mean to direct it at you sfp.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423521 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 10:10 pm to
JJ is a pro style QB

he's just really fast

the reason he's not an amzing runner is b/c he's a pocket passer and always has been. he never trained his running tools
Posted by Hideo Nomo
Put up both hands, drop one thumb
Member since Apr 2008
7457 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 10:12 pm to
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lee is a tiger you ungrateful fricks you should be cheering for him to be successful cause we may need his services. keep it up you bastards.


If I said that it's a bad idea for Al Woods to return kicks this season, would I be considered an ungrateful frick?
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8186 posts
Posted on 8/6/09 at 11:25 pm to
thank god for sfp. It said lee pitched the ball better. Too bad the option also requires you to run the ball and for the defense to think of you as a legit running threat. In additon jefferson's running threat comes more from broken plays and ability to escape the pocket. Thats where he's 100 times better than Lee and why he is mentioned as "dual-threat"
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 10:22 am to
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the writer didn't say he ran the ball better than JJ

That arguments not very well thought out. If the QB does a poor job on delivery or fakes, the D will make an easy read. Stopping both the RB or QB from gaining any yardage.

Sheesh!
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