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Creating Wealth and the people you know who have it ...
Posted on 3/22/09 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 3/22/09 at 8:30 pm
For the sake of this thread, let's define wealth as an income in xs of 300k/ yr with assetts > $1M .. I'm talking the well-to-do neighbor down the street, not 'rock star' wealth.
What I've noticed that most of these people have in common is that someone in their family, some ancestor, worked their arse off. That doesn't mean this person doesn't or hasn't worked hard as well.
More specifically, someone sacrificed, sort of grandpa worked two jobs. One generation set up the next generation; often times the third generation actually blows it cuz they don't remember the sacrifice.
I don't know any 'lottery' winners, entertainers or Initech employees who got hit by a drunk driver as they backed out of their driveway.
Your thoughts?
What I've noticed that most of these people have in common is that someone in their family, some ancestor, worked their arse off. That doesn't mean this person doesn't or hasn't worked hard as well.
More specifically, someone sacrificed, sort of grandpa worked two jobs. One generation set up the next generation; often times the third generation actually blows it cuz they don't remember the sacrifice.
I don't know any 'lottery' winners, entertainers or Initech employees who got hit by a drunk driver as they backed out of their driveway.
Your thoughts?
Posted on 3/22/09 at 8:41 pm to Fat Man
I know a lot of wealthy "ex-realestate" types, that are not particularly intelligent, or from fortunate backgrounds. Just saying...
Posted on 3/22/09 at 8:50 pm to Fat Man
I would hope that anyone with an income of $300K a year would have assets worth more than 1 million dollars
Posted on 3/22/09 at 9:16 pm to Fat Man
I know several people in this category.
The ones I know the best have earned it themselves from the ground up. Key is owning your own (successful) business.
The ones I know the best have earned it themselves from the ground up. Key is owning your own (successful) business.
Posted on 3/22/09 at 9:31 pm to Fat Man
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e specifically, someone sacrificed, sort of grandpa worked two jobs. One generation set up the next generation
I think that it comes back to the 'greatest generation', & what they did following WWII. The economy was booming, home ownership increased, GI bill, plus a believe in savings learned from the Great Depression.
It was not only the wealth that they were able to pass on, but also the opportunities they provided. Their daughters were really the first to enter the workforce on such a large scale.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 4:44 pm to Fat Man
quote:Maybe a case of skewed sampling. It's just the opposite in my experience.
What I've noticed that most of these people have in common is that someone in their family, some ancestor, worked their arse off. That doesn't mean this person doesn't or hasn't worked hard as well.
Now if you're talking "ultra-rich" Paris Hilton types, many of those folks actually are living off of inheritance, fast-tracks in family companies, etc.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:04 pm to Fat Man
two types of people in this world.....
vast spenders of wealth and
vast accumulators of wealth
My grandpa died with over $2MM in the bank and he never made more than $30K per year. But he and grandma saved, they rarely ate out, always bought things on a bargain and lived in the same house for the last 50 years. And grandma never really worked either.
You can earn a lot of wealth when you're not trying to keep up with the Jones'.
vast spenders of wealth and
vast accumulators of wealth
My grandpa died with over $2MM in the bank and he never made more than $30K per year. But he and grandma saved, they rarely ate out, always bought things on a bargain and lived in the same house for the last 50 years. And grandma never really worked either.
You can earn a lot of wealth when you're not trying to keep up with the Jones'.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:00 pm to Fat Man
I agree with your post. I also think it has to do with passing on knowledge to your children. Me and my siblings are all college graduates, the first in our family. So we make more than our parents. Now if our children take that next step they should be in a better situation than we are/were at their same age.
So they have a better chance at success than we did, or at least they should.
So they have a better chance at success than we did, or at least they should.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 6:29 pm to Fat Man
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For the sake of this thread, let's define wealth as an income in xs of 300k/ yr with assetts > $1M
I live on a street where everyone's assets are over a Mill because we're on prime lakefront. Don't know about the incomes. But every person on the street has one thing in common...they're old and they're married. They came from humble to middle class origins and made money over a long period of time.
I know their stories because I've hosted many block parties. It's about 12 houses..the other side of the street is deep woods. Only one place has kids. Two of us are retired, the rest still work but kids are grown. 11 of the 12 have dogs. The only place with cats is the one with kids. He's afraid that a dog will kill his kid.
Only one family inherited a great deal of wealth. They've worked very hard to increase that but they are also the least social. They never invite any of the other neighbors to their mansion. Not sure what the point of having a mansion is if you don't show it off.
Damn, I just heard a really loud BOOM as I was typing this. Neighbor must have been shooting at a gator. That's another thing. We all have guns.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 6:43 pm to Fat Man
Well, I think we only had 1 year that we made over $100,000 and our assets were well over a million, but divorce and the stock market has been pretty rough on our net worth this last year. By the way - I wish I had had more of it in real estate - haven't lost any value on my houses at all.
Posted on 3/25/09 at 9:49 am to Fat Man
This is a great thread.
Most millionaires got it two ways: they owned their own business, or the have a skill that it extremely valuable in the marketplace. Think doctor, NFL player, underwater welder.
I said MOST. The rest of us can get there by being tightasses. That's my plan. I set my thermostat at home at 55 degrees in the winter, except for weekends. I drove a '00 Tahoe, and I rarely eat up town. My only indulgences are a gym membership and a trip to see tOSU get beaten every fall. A
Most millionaires got it two ways: they owned their own business, or the have a skill that it extremely valuable in the marketplace. Think doctor, NFL player, underwater welder.
I said MOST. The rest of us can get there by being tightasses. That's my plan. I set my thermostat at home at 55 degrees in the winter, except for weekends. I drove a '00 Tahoe, and I rarely eat up town. My only indulgences are a gym membership and a trip to see tOSU get beaten every fall. A
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