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Why is WW1 Germany overshadowed by WW2 Germany
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:05 pm
WW1 Germany was a well oiled machine that fought the global coalition to the end. WW2 Germany just sucker punched its neighbors and ended up getting conquered at the end. There was no chance of WW2 Germany winning after the British decided to fight until the end but WW1 Germany had a chances at least.
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:06 pm to Galloglaich
There's that little thing about trains and camps...
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:07 pm to Galloglaich
Yeah, can't quite put my finger on it...
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:08 pm to Galloglaich
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There was no chance of WW2 Germany winning after the British decided to fight until the end
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:08 pm to Galloglaich
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There was no chance of WW2 Germany winning after the British decided to fight
It was hands down the entry of the United States and the USSR that sealed Germany's fate. Britain was in a very bad position until this happened.
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:12 pm to Galloglaich
1) Two is more recent and is the last "world war"
2) WWI was not necessarily a good vs evil situation, it was a substantially more complicated political situation. WW2 has been (rightly) framed in more of a good vs evil context, notwithstanding the USSR being on the side of the Allies
3) We have a lot more video and pictures of 2
4) The US did not get involved in 1 until very late in the game, the US was deeply entrenched into 2 for a long time and was instrumental in its outcome
5) Addressing your question more directly, 2 is closer to how we consider modern warfare to be, while 1 is substantially stranger to how we think now, imo
2) WWI was not necessarily a good vs evil situation, it was a substantially more complicated political situation. WW2 has been (rightly) framed in more of a good vs evil context, notwithstanding the USSR being on the side of the Allies
3) We have a lot more video and pictures of 2
4) The US did not get involved in 1 until very late in the game, the US was deeply entrenched into 2 for a long time and was instrumental in its outcome
5) Addressing your question more directly, 2 is closer to how we consider modern warfare to be, while 1 is substantially stranger to how we think now, imo
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:13 pm to Galloglaich
Because history is written by the victors and the communist won WW2.
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:14 pm to Galloglaich
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:17 pm to Galloglaich
Picked up John Keegan’s “The First World War” book recently. Excited to get into it as I know little about WW1 other than trench warfare and Franz Ferdinand
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:19 pm to cfish140
That goddamned Gavrilo Princip.
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:22 pm to Galloglaich
WW2 definitely caused more of a fuhrer
ETA:
If Hitler doesn't attack the Soviets and Japan doesn't attack Pearl Harbor, then there's high odds that Germany would have been able to eventually take out the British.
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quote:The French were already conquered and the British army fighting on mainland Europe had gotten their asses kicked back across the English Channel.
There was no chance of WW2 Germany winning after the British decided to fight until the end
If Hitler doesn't attack the Soviets and Japan doesn't attack Pearl Harbor, then there's high odds that Germany would have been able to eventually take out the British.
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:24 pm to Galloglaich
The WWI Museum in Kansas City is pretty good.
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:25 pm to Galloglaich
The British weren’t winning World War 2 without the Americans. The Germans saw way more success in WW2 than they ever did in WW1.
Also, WW2 Germany was an evil force that needed to be defeated. That makes it much easier to romanticize it and make movies and books about it and everything.
The Nazi concentration camps also make WW2 more interesting because Germany absolutely needed to be defeated in order to stop that.
Also, WW2 Germany was an evil force that needed to be defeated. That makes it much easier to romanticize it and make movies and books about it and everything.
The Nazi concentration camps also make WW2 more interesting because Germany absolutely needed to be defeated in order to stop that.
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:25 pm to ChewyDante
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It was hands down the entry of the United States and the USSR that sealed Germany's fate. Britain was in a very bad position until this happened.
I don’t see how an overextended chaotic dictatorship with no boats somehow defeats a global empire that requires “boats” to beat? Yall are watching too much Red Dawn Cod shite. The British empire had 6x the population of Nazi Germany so yall need to quit sniffing glue.
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:25 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:<——Been to where he died (of TB).
That goddamned Gavrilo Princip.
Terezín, Czech Republic
Fun fact: Even though the Austria-Hungarian authorities knew he was the assassin, they legally couldn’t execute him as he was a couple of months younger than the legal age of majority when he committed the crime.
So the authorities didn’t take really good care of him and he died of consumption before the end of WWI still in captivity in the krankenhaus (Hospital) in Fortress Theriesenstadt (now known as Terezín).
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:28 pm to Fun Bunch
Sergeant York says:
“Twarn’t nothin”
“Twarn’t nothin”
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:31 pm to Galloglaich
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I don’t see how an overextended chaotic dictatorship with no boats somehow defeats a global empire that requires “boats” to beat? Yall are watching too much Red Dawn Cod shite.
This is a joke, right? No one’s this stupid and ignorant.
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:34 pm to Galloglaich
quote:The way WWI ended and the conditions forced onto Germany pretty much guaranteed that WWII was a good bet.
Why is WW1 Germany overshadowed by WW2 Germany
I just got back from the ex-British naval base at Scapa Flow, Orkney where the Imperial German fleet was interned after hostilities ceased from 1918 until the “big surprise” eight months later. (The orchestrated scuttling of the entire impounded German fleet there)
Only a few ships are still there now on the bottom, the rest were salvaged before WWII by Scotsmen, all those as total marine losses.
Orkney is one of the most interesting places I’ve ever travelled to see.
Recommended highly.
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:35 pm to Galloglaich
I can give you neinty-nein reasons why
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:37 pm to cfish140
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Picked up John Keegan’s “The First World War” book recently.
you'd probably be better off with Guns of August (Tuchman) or Dreadnought (Massie)
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