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Did you know that First Basemen are allowed to stretch for the ball?

Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27660 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:46 am
Tommy Tanks hit his first homerun of the season and the video came and I noticed that his swing looks significantly different than it did when he was at LSU. I decided to go look at his game winner against Wake and was watching highlights of the game, and Tre Morgan was absolutely nails and and I miss his splits at first base.

He didn't always need to do it when he stretched, but he took the opportunity to do it when he could. Good practice and just showin' off...

Every once in a while it is a treat to go back and see how good we had it for 3 years with him on 1st.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
77236 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:49 am to
Sometimes stretching for the ball makes sense. Sometimes it doesn't.

The time saved is negligible, but reducing the size of the target and putting yourself in a less adjustable position can be a net negative over the milliseconds you might shave off.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11583 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:52 am to
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Sometimes stretching for the ball makes sense. Sometimes it doesn't.

The time saved is negligible, but reducing the size of the target and putting yourself in a less adjustable position can be a net negative over the milliseconds you might shave off.


If you are reducing the size of the target AND putting yourself in a less adjustable position by stretching too early you are doing it wrong. You've never played 1st base, have you?
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3130 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:52 am to
Morgan was really good at stretching after he knew where the ball would end up.

Too many 1B stretch too early, before the throw is made, and then put themselves out of position to catch a throw that is a little wide.

I prefer no stretch unless absolutely necessary on a bang-bang play.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
46361 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:53 am to
Did you know you don't have to start a thread for every stupid thought that pops into your head?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19940 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:53 am to
Tre is one of the best defensive first basemen on the planet, at any level. Unreal how good he is.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
77236 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:54 am to
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If you are reducing the size of the target AND putting yourself in a less adjustable position by stretching too early you are doing it wrong.


There are a lot of guys doing it wrong. It's a very under-coached position at every level below the minor leagues.

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You've never played 1st base, have you?


I've never played a competent first base.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
46361 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:56 am to
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Sometimes stretching for the ball makes sense. Sometimes it doesn't.

The time saved is negligible, but reducing the size of the target and putting yourself in a less adjustable position can be a net negative over the milliseconds you might shave off.
If you are reducing the size of the target AND putting yourself in a less adjustable position by stretching too early you are doing it wrong.


I believe you are agreeing with the person you are being snarky with.

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You've never played 1st base, have you?



I have, but it was softball as an adult, and I ain't capable of doing that split stretchy thing.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27660 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:01 am to
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Did you know you don't have to start a thread for every stupid thought that pops into your head?


First, this is probably the first thread I've started in the Rant for weeks.

Second, It is NEVER a bad idea to reminisce about about the legends that we have been lucky to watch wear the purple and gold through the years - which was the point of this thread.

Third, it is almost always a bad idea just to be an a-hole and post solely to criticize another person's post for no particular reason. You think you're being clever, but it just shows a lack of character...

That is all...
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79333 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:02 am to
People need to stop comparing every 1st Basemen to Tre.

it will lead only to madness.

He wouldn’t have been a 1st basemen if he was naturally right handed. His defense is so beyond typical.

Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27660 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:11 am to
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People need to stop comparing every 1st Basemen to Tre.


Tre is the standard should inspire everyone who comes after him. Obviously, Jared Jones and Zach Yorke aren't going to do splits, and will never have his glove, but Tre Morgan showed us for 3 years that a 1st baseman can affect the game with their defense. That play at the plate against Wake was a perfect example. He didn't do anything at the plate that day, but we don't win that game if he doesn't make the play at the plate on defense.

BTW, He almost won the game earlier when he hit a laser towards left field that the Wake 3rd baseman barely stabbed in a helluva play that would have been Wake's equivalent of Tre's play at the plate, had WF won the game. Tommy Tanks would have scored on that play.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69976 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:14 am to
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The time saved is negligible, but reducing the size of the target and putting yourself in a less adjustable position can be a net negative over the milliseconds you might shave off.


i have never seen a first baseman stretch before knowing where the ball is coming...he is reacting to the throw so none of that makes sense
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79333 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:14 am to
There is a real issue when you make your Standard something so far exceeds expectations.

There is a reason baseball looks at Wins above Replacement and not Wins Above Aaron Judge.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290565 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:16 am to
Stretching at 1st has a very minimal impact on playing 1B.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
46361 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:16 am to
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Did you know you don't have to start a thread for every stupid thought that pops into your head?



First, this is probably the first thread I've started in the Rant for weeks.


My point still stands.

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Second, It is NEVER a bad idea to reminisce about about the legends that we have been lucky to watch wear the purple and gold through the years


That is true.

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which was the point of this thread.




Your thread title suggests otherwise.

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Third, it is almost always a bad idea just to be an a-hole and post solely to criticize another person's post for no particular reason.


I had a particular reason. You know what it is because you tried to mask it in your response.

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You think you're being clever


Not really. You, on the other hand, with your "I'm just reminiscing about past legends" to cover a dig at the current team, is certainly a poor attempt at being clever.

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but it just shows a lack of character.



I'm not the one trying to cover up an attack on a current LSU player.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27660 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:20 am to
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Stretching at 1st has a very minimal impact on playing 1B.


It does, but not in the way people think.

People think it is solely to get the ball in the mitt sooner in order to beat the runner to first. While that can happen, it is rare that a play is THAT close on a play where the 1st baseman can stretch out completely.

Where it makes more of a difference is on those low throws where it allows the 1st baseman to catch the ball before it hits the ground instead of on the short hop.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14143 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:23 am to
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There is a real issue when you make your Standard something so far exceeds expectations.


This is something the rant has always had an issue with
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 11:23 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27660 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:23 am to
Wow. You had enough stupid thoughts to parse my post up into little pieces and reply to every piece. I won't do the same...
Posted by chadr07
Rapides Parish
Member since Jan 2015
14105 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:24 am to
If the Rays are going to continue being stupid and never call Tre Morgan up then we can definitely use him at LSU again for a little while.
Posted by Cubera
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2017
227 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 11:30 am to
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Stretching at 1st has a very minimal impact on playing 1B.

Are we sure about that? Seems like every close replay review at first base is looking at the ball at the glove or in the glove vs foot touching bag. Some have said ball disappears into glove but it’s not caught until the glove moves. At that level of analysis, which seems like every 1st base review, it seems like stretching matters.
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