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It’s more than a head coach in hoops, look at Dale Brown.

Posted on 3/12/26 at 11:05 pm
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
639 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 11:05 pm
He had Jack Schalow, Tex Winters, then Homer Drew, then Rick Huckabay, and later Gary Duhe. Brown obviously wasn’t an XO nor a game coach and he wouldn’t have had half the success he had without these assistants. And to those who don’t remember, weren’t around, or deny his success. One of his first teams was with Eddie Palubinskas, Mike Darnell, John Enquist. They were sub mid pack record wise but he put a good product on the floor. Then he really started hitting on all cylinders when my teammate Howard Carter was a sophomore in 1980 with Macklin, Sims, Leonard Mitchell, Huck Martin, John Tudor, and Cookie Man. 17-1 in SEC and 31-5 overall, and a final four berth, finally to be taken down by the great Bobby Knight. That game was Huckabay vs Knight in XO and game coaching and Knight was better. But Brown assembled that team.

Then the next final four team with Redden, Blanton and Derek Taylor, another Redemptorist boy.

Bottom line and moral of the story. You can’t win with a passive, sluggish, probably a great guy but not enthusiastic at all coach. You need a spitfire who believes his own schtick. Dale Brown had most of what’s needed because he knew he needed the good technical assistants. And at this stage of his young career, Will Wade has what it takes even more so. Rouse knows that and hopefully he can throw the cast net well enough to bring the General home.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27025 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 11:20 pm to
One of the better posts I’ve seen here in awhile.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
34493 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:05 am to
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Bottom line and moral of the story. You can’t win with a passive, sluggish, probably a great guy but not enthusiastic at all coach. You need a spitfire who believes his own schtick..


No offense to Brown and what he accomplished, but there are MANY successful coaches in college athletics who are not fiery, rah-rah, motivational guys. There are plenty of coaching styles that have proven to work outside of that one.

And McMahon’s failure had little to do with coaching style. He doesn’t know how to construct a staff or team that can win at the SEC level, even with plenty of money available to be able to last offseason. He’s just not good enough.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
12773 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:37 am to
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He doesn’t know how to construct a staff or team that can win at the SEC level, even with plenty of money available to be able to last offseason.


Or maybe he does but lost 40% of his starting five and top players two years in a row.
Posted by Bob the Terrible
Oakdale, LA
Member since Nov 2004
571 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:51 am to
No mention of Ron Abernanthy?
Posted by LSUTiger1981
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Feb 2022
160 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 2:18 am to
Hands down by far the dumbest rant you could ever have. Remove Dales dick from your mouth clown.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7517 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:02 am to
He couldn't get past the 32 with CJ, Stanley and Shaq. Awful coach
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12447 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 5:26 am to
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He couldn't get past the 32 with CJ, Stanley and Shaq. Awful coach


I remember that season well. This was during an era when the top teams had returning players for their third and fourth years. Shaq was a true freshman and was not as much of an offensive threat as he would later become. Stanley was a redshirt freshman and was pretty good for a redshirt freshman.. The bottom line is that team had not yet had time to gel into the team it could have become if they had stayed together for 3 years. LSU was lucky to have Dale Brown. He put LSU basketball on the map and provided some great seasons.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26726 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:15 am to
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Or maybe he does but lost 40% of his starting five and top players two years in a row.

What was our record in the SEC with Thomas? Also, if you've recruited well and have a good team, you shouldn't get blown out on your own court by terrible SEC teams like South Carolina, Miss. St. and Oklahoma even without two of your better players.Again, injuries happen to every freaking team. That is why you need a good team with DEPTH.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26726 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:25 am to
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He couldn't get past the 32 with CJ, Stanley and Shaq. Awful coach

To say he was awful considering the accomplishments he had at a school whose basketball program was a piece of shite when he took it over is retarded. I mean, LSU didn't even do anything in basketball when Pistol Pete was here.

Brown wasn't the best Xs and Os guy, but many of his teams were extremely motivated and it's actually extremely important. You don't make 10 straight NCAA tournaments otherwise. He underachieved with CJ, Shaq and company, but Shaq wasn't what he'd become yet and they got beat by another eventual Final Four juggernaut with 4 first round picks in Georgia Tech. Brown also promoted LSU basketball like no other coach. LSU still has 3 of the top 4 largest regular season attendances of all time in the NCAA for those games in the Dome and that's 35+ years later.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18434 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:27 am to
Yeah, Dale was driven - in a much different way than most coaches - but driven nonetheless. I was not and am not the biggest Dale fan around, but he did get LSU for a while to a consistent level they never had been in hoops and that can't be denied and warrants kudos.

He would not have accepted not having the $$ to get the players and would have done whatever it took to raise that $$ he would not have waited for others to bang the drum for him with an 11th hour appeal to fund the roster he would have gone out and worked the big donors himself and gotten that money himself.

He would have promoted the program - he would have taken media requests with anyone and everyone - he would have been heavily involved in in game promotions and the like to attract fans and attract players.

Whatever coach we get if and when CMM is gone will have to have some of this - there just is not enough interest in LSU basketball to have someone that just wants to coach and let the other things take care of themselves. That just won't work here.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 7:29 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33153 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:44 am to
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Or maybe he does but lost 40% of his starting five and top players two years in a row.
what kind of an excuse is this? Welcome to college basketball in 2026, EVERY team loses most of their guys every year
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6515 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 8:14 am to
Also…. Brown is part of the reason the basketball program is in the situation it’s been in for years.

He and Temple always had their grubby arse hands in everything. Pushing whatever they wanted and their people onto the program.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29849 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:22 am to
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Tex Winters


This site has a large number of posters that do this. It’s fascinating.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35308 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:38 am to
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what kind of an excuse is this? Welcome to college basketball in 2026, EVERY team loses most of their guys every year


FYI, you are fighting a losing battle. In his mind McMahon will have always been destined for greatness if he just wouldn't have lost an average SEC player and a guy who when he did play against SEC and SEC caliber opponents LSU went 1-4 with a 15 point average margin of defeat

Poor Matt. It's not really his fault he's lost nearly 80% of his games against SEC opponents. He's just had bad luck....for four years

In about 10 years from now there will be a Matt McMahon fan club reunion at the Holiday Inn on Airline Hwy. The 15 goobers in attendance will fondly reminisce about all those times LSU almost won a lot games. How McMahon's players did something often unheard of in sports...they played hard. How Jalen Reed, with his career 7 point 4 rebound average was going to be the next Oscar Robinson until he got hurt. They'll play party games likely putting LSU in hypothetical NCAA Tournament brackets from 2023-2026 and pretending LSU was in the Final Four, while someone drops hotdogs attached to parachutes from the ceiling
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7517 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:43 am to
Same can be said with the Fab 5, right? Almost won the title with 5 freshmen. Again, Dale Brown was a terrible coach.
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
1658 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:18 pm to
Dale also had Shaquille O'Neal, Stanley Roberts. Chris Jackson. Not to mention vernell Singleton and Griggs etc.
Those first three names basicallyhad to be double teamed at all times they touched the ball and they were on the court at the same time, and he couldn't get past Georgia Tech in the Suite 16.
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
1658 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:19 pm to
Yep. If you have Shaquille O'Neal Stanley Robertson Chris Jackson on the court at the same time and a cast of all SEC contributors and you still can't win it all, that doesn't say much
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
693 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:21 pm to
"I was worried about losing until I looked down the floor and saw Dale Brown. Then I knew we had a chance". - BK
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12447 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:24 pm to
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Again, Dale Brown was a terrible coach.


You don't know shite, so there's that.
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