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Navy tells shipping industry escorts not possible for now
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:12 am
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:12 am
quote:Newsmax
The U.S. Navy has refused near-daily requests from the shipping industry for military escorts through the Strait of Hormuz since the start of the war on Iran, saying the risk of attacks is too high for now, according to sources familiar with the matter.
The Navy's assessments spell continued disruption to Middle East oil exports and reflect a divergence from President Donald Trump’s statements that the U.S. is prepared to provide naval escorts whenever needed to restart regular shipments along the key waterway.
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Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:19 am to bigjoe1
Putting our ships in the Strait would put them at a huge risk of getting hit by drones and missiles. The war isn’t super popular if it is and if our ships start getting hit that’s not gonna help much.
And we probably don’t have enough ships in the region to do it. The destroyers we do have in the region are needed to protect the carriers.
We need more air assets near the strait to take out the drones and it may eventually involve ground troops on the islands and Iranian side of the strait to deny the enemy launch points for drone boats and to set up a more layered air defense of the shipping lane.
And we probably don’t have enough ships in the region to do it. The destroyers we do have in the region are needed to protect the carriers.
We need more air assets near the strait to take out the drones and it may eventually involve ground troops on the islands and Iranian side of the strait to deny the enemy launch points for drone boats and to set up a more layered air defense of the shipping lane.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:19 am to bigjoe1
Who could have seen that coming
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:21 am to BOHICAMAN
Just making shite up, I see.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:21 am to Riverside
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Just making shite up, I see.
Reaching logical conclusions based on available information and common sense.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:22 am to bigjoe1
The messaging surrounding this entire conflict has been embarrassing as a MAGA fan. I agree we shouldn’t be putting our ships and guys in harms way but why tell the world we will escort ships to protect them if we’re not willing to do that?
This post was edited on 3/11/26 at 8:23 am
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:23 am to TDsngumbo
It’s perfect because everyone can frame it however they want , to fit with their predetermined narrative.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:23 am to Riverside
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Just making shite up, I see.
Somebody is. Are we swinging our Big Navy Dick around and embarrassing Lloyds of London or are we declining requests?
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:24 am to EastWestConnection
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Who could have seen that coming
I think it's amusing that some of you think the military didn't have that as part of the assessment to war. You have to be special kind of stupid to believe this is a surprise consequence.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:25 am to BOHICAMAN
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getting hit by drones and missiles.
Shahed 136 has a range of 2,500km. The entire gulf is already in range, including the ports the ships are currently sitting in.
Has there been a single report of an anti ship missile being launched from Bandar Abbas? Silkworms and their successors are essentially useless with the advent of drones.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:26 am to LemmyLives
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Shahed 136 has a range of 2,500km. The entire gulf is already in range, including the ports the ships are currently sitting in. Has there been a single report of an anti ship missile being launched from Bandar Abbas? Silkworms and their successors are essentially useless with the advent of drones.
Did you read my entire post?
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:26 am to TDsngumbo
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I agree we shouldn’t be putting our ships and guys in harms way but why tell the world we will escort ships to protect them if we’re not willing to do that?
How was that announcement made? Was it some prepared statement or press release or was Trump just talking into a microphone?
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:26 am to Flats
The danger is more about putting our ships in such a small area as well as civilian vessels taking drones or short range missiles to me, not from any Iranian naval perspective.
Trump needs to walk a fine line on this whole thing is how I imagine average people feel, even if I’m inclined to give more grace.
That said it’s probably not a good idea to publicly declare you’ll do it if you aren’t ready to
Trump needs to walk a fine line on this whole thing is how I imagine average people feel, even if I’m inclined to give more grace.
That said it’s probably not a good idea to publicly declare you’ll do it if you aren’t ready to
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:28 am to td01241
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That said it’s probably not a good idea to publicly declare you’ll do it if you aren’t ready to
But Trump frequently does this. He likes to say shite off the cuff then it has to be walked back. It's how he operates.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:28 am to td01241
Even if we were willing to put our ships in harms way we’re not gonna leave the aircraft carriers undefended to escort cargo ships or set up some sort of picket line in the strait.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:30 am to bigjoe1
I believe the original point was they needed insurance from England and that was pulled.
The US Government stepped in and disrupted the England stalemate by offering shippers insurance. Which if you know monetary history, was a huge slap in the face to the England.
Trump said if it was necessary the US Navy would escort ships through. I have zero doubt that if shite hits the fan, Trump will insure escorts happen.
"Trump offered the possibility of naval assistance"
The US Government stepped in and disrupted the England stalemate by offering shippers insurance. Which if you know monetary history, was a huge slap in the face to the England.
Trump said if it was necessary the US Navy would escort ships through. I have zero doubt that if shite hits the fan, Trump will insure escorts happen.
"Trump offered the possibility of naval assistance"
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:33 am to riccoar
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Which if you know monetary history, was a huge slap in the face to the England.
How so? I would imagine Lloyd's has war exclusions. They don't care if a ship goes through, they're just not going to cover the potential losses.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:36 am to Flats
What ships have been hit have been hit with "projectiles." Once whatever it is can be determined, it can be dealt with.
This post was edited on 3/11/26 at 8:45 am
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:40 am to bigjoe1
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according to sources
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:43 am to Amblin
It’s possible that the US Navy hasn’t said shite to the industry or officially denied any requests. The “industry” may not have even requested anything so far. But the fact remains that there currently no US naval escorts in the strait of Hormuz that we know of.
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