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Cal State prof warns scrapping SAT in name of ‘inclusivity’ is leaving students unprepared
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:41 pm
Excellent article!
Coming from an economics professor, albeit most likely a liberal one, this is HUGE. I hope her message will be picked up by others and disseminated nationwide. As an instructor and tutor, I see and deal with these deficiencies on a regular basis, and often have to go back to elementary school to begin building again what should have been mastered in the early grades.
Don't let your kids skip challenging courses, don't let them skip standardized tests, and question the criteria used by test-optional colleges to admit what are basically functionally illiterate students.
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A California economics professor is sounding the alarm on the "deficits in learning" she is seeing in the classroom, arguing that the decision to scrap standardized testing in the name of "inclusivity" is actually a disservice to the students it claims to help.
Cal State Long Beach professor Andrea Mays told Fox News Digital that the current cohort of college students, many of whom spent their formative middle school years in online learning during the COVID-19 pandemic, are arriving on campus unprepared for basic coursework.
Mays says the drop rate is up "phenomenally" and that chairs of other departments tell her it's widespread, with 25% of students dropping classes, with math being a key area where students are coming in underprepared.
"I teach a class that is offered for non-economics majors," Mays explained. "I could put on an index card exactly what math is required for my class, it's not calculus, and they are struggling with it, they're embarrassed, they're demoralized, they come into my classroom, and they say, or into my office hours, and they say, I never learned this stuff, I don't know how to calculate a percentage change."
Coming from an economics professor, albeit most likely a liberal one, this is HUGE. I hope her message will be picked up by others and disseminated nationwide. As an instructor and tutor, I see and deal with these deficiencies on a regular basis, and often have to go back to elementary school to begin building again what should have been mastered in the early grades.
Don't let your kids skip challenging courses, don't let them skip standardized tests, and question the criteria used by test-optional colleges to admit what are basically functionally illiterate students.
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A California economics professor is sounding the alarm on the "deficits in learning" she is seeing in the classroom, arguing that the decision to scrap standardized testing in the name of "inclusivity" is actually a disservice to the students it claims to help.
Cal State Long Beach professor Andrea Mays told Fox News Digital that the current cohort of college students, many of whom spent their formative middle school years in online learning during the COVID-19 pandemic, are arriving on campus unprepared for basic coursework.
Mays says the drop rate is up "phenomenally" and that chairs of other departments tell her it's widespread, with 25% of students dropping classes, with math being a key area where students are coming in underprepared.
"I teach a class that is offered for non-economics majors," Mays explained. "I could put on an index card exactly what math is required for my class, it's not calculus, and they are struggling with it, they're embarrassed, they're demoralized, they come into my classroom, and they say, or into my office hours, and they say, I never learned this stuff, I don't know how to calculate a percentage change."
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:45 pm to conservativewifeymom
Cal Berkeley?
This post was edited on 2/14/26 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:46 pm to chatterbait
Cal State Long Beach, it's in the article.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:46 pm to conservativewifeymom
Gavin Newsom took a huge shite on the state of California and abroad.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:46 pm to conservativewifeymom
Either you can do the math or you can’t. The standardized tests measure that
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:48 pm to conservativewifeymom
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they say, I never learned this stuff, I don't know how to calculate a percentage change."
Does anyone remember the Barbie Doll with the string to pull and she said: 'Math is Hard!' Feminists had a fit and had it removed.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 2:18 pm to conservativewifeymom
I’m not a fan of using test scores for college admissions.
Students should take it anyway, but it should be used for course enrollment. Let the math section determine which courses a student can enroll in, and let the reading and writing section determine eligibility for other courses.
Without a qualifying score, colleges can still require students to take prerequisite courses that will enable them to advance in complexity depending on success in prerequisites.
Some people are late bloomers and can learn in college despite not learning in high school [raises hand].
Students should take it anyway, but it should be used for course enrollment. Let the math section determine which courses a student can enroll in, and let the reading and writing section determine eligibility for other courses.
Without a qualifying score, colleges can still require students to take prerequisite courses that will enable them to advance in complexity depending on success in prerequisites.
Some people are late bloomers and can learn in college despite not learning in high school [raises hand].
Posted on 2/14/26 at 2:22 pm to Willie Stroker
Well, therefore the proliferation of 0-level non-credit remedial classes on campus. They add to the cost of a 'college' education while attempting to remedy deficits that started back in elementary school.
Taking standardized tests should be a requirement and the complete picture should be presented to the family and student, including the likelihood of having to take (and pay) for remedial courses and having to spend more time in college. In light of this information, the family should make a decision PRIOR to actually matriculating.
The dropout rate, especially for freshmen, is astounding.
Taking standardized tests should be a requirement and the complete picture should be presented to the family and student, including the likelihood of having to take (and pay) for remedial courses and having to spend more time in college. In light of this information, the family should make a decision PRIOR to actually matriculating.
The dropout rate, especially for freshmen, is astounding.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 2:31 pm to Willie Stroker
That would make institutions for higher learning into institutions for lower learning.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 2:48 pm to conservativewifeymom
Lot of truth here. I know a guy who's mom is a professor at a very expensive private school, and she says students right now are absolutely horrible. Unable to form a rational thought on their own. But they'll get that degree nonetheless.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 9:46 pm to conservativewifeymom
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The dropout rate, especially for freshmen, is astounding.
That’s a wonderful part of the process.
We should be in the business of challenging people to do better, give them an opportunity to learn and adapt, but let them go when they realize there are better options.
College is too uniquely different from high school for us to be using a single test to determine whether or not kids can succeed in a different academic environment.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 10:22 pm to Willie Stroker
If we only had a test that was designed to assess your readiness for higher learning. Like one that was developed on decades of research.
Just wait, some Dem think tank will come out with a new one that’s not called the SAT, but will test for the same shite. It won’t be racist bc of some word salad they will spew.
Just wait, some Dem think tank will come out with a new one that’s not called the SAT, but will test for the same shite. It won’t be racist bc of some word salad they will spew.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 10:27 pm to SloaneRanger
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Either you can do the math or you can’t. The standardized tests measure that
I bet they are well versed in Climate Change, Transgenderism and White Nationalism.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 10:36 pm to conservativewifeymom
Eh. It’s backwards.
Scrapping the SAT is to hide the increasing failures of the public school system.
Scrapping the SAT is to hide the increasing failures of the public school system.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 10:36 pm to conservativewifeymom
This isn't a California phenomenon; it's everywhere. Education has been in decline for many decades. Our culture is in the process of rejecting every principle that helped this country prosper. It's hard to pin down exactly when the decay started, but it was long before Covid. Post WWII, when the dollar became our crutch, seems most likely to me.
This post was edited on 2/14/26 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 2/15/26 at 7:03 am to wdhalgren
Should inform the kids that if they don’t learn math they will be minimum wage drudges with no fun in their lives….tell it like it is…..
No math no college….
No math no college….
Posted on 2/15/26 at 11:54 am to Willie Stroker
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I’m not a fan of using test scores for college admissions.
It’s the most fair way to do it. It’s also a smart way to weed out retards.
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