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HIMS putting on a masterclass on how to destroy a company

Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:04 am
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45666 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:04 am
Beautiful to watch. Down 65% in the past six months. Shareholder lawsuits are about to start flying
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
39725 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:21 am to
more background? im not familiar with it.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24033 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:30 am to
They somehow think that rules don't apply to them. Turns out that you can't just revolutionize the medical industry. Who knew?!

It's been fascinating to watch.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24033 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:35 am to
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more background? im not familiar with it.

This is just the latest headline:
quote:

Novo Nordisk sues Hims & Hers over copycat versions of Wegovy drugs; Hims stock plunges 27%


LINK
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24033 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:39 am to
A little summary:

Hims & Hers Health, a telehealth company specializing in direct-to-consumer medications, has demonstrated significant naivety in its aggressive push to sell compounded versions of popular GLP-1 weight-loss drugs (like semaglutide, mimicking Ozempic and Wegovy). This stems from their apparent underestimation of regulatory risks, including FDA restrictions on compounding once drug shortages end, intellectual property conflicts with pharma giants like Novo Nordisk, and the potential for misleading marketing to trigger lawsuits and enforcement.

By prioritizing low-cost access and high-profile advertising (e.g., Super Bowl spots) over rigorous compliance, they've repeatedly courted controversy, assuming "personalization" loopholes would shield them from scrutiny. This approach ignores historical FDA crackdowns on unapproved drugs, patient safety concerns (e.g., untested foreign-sourced ingredients), and the power of Big Pharma lobbying, leading to a pattern of short-lived initiatives, stock volatility, and legal entanglements that could have been mitigated with more cautious vetting.

Here's an outline of the key troubles Hims & Hers has faced over the last year (roughly February 2025 to February 2026), based on regulatory actions, lawsuits, and market fallout:

February 2025: Super Bowl Ad Controversy – Their ad during Super Bowl LIX promoted compounded GLP-1s, sparking allegations of violating FDA rules on drug advertising by downplaying the unapproved status and lack of clinical trials. This drew criticism from regulators, senators, and consumer groups for misleading consumers about safety and efficacy.

April-June 2025: Partnership with Novo Nordisk Collapses – Announced a collaboration with Novo to sell FDA-approved Wegovy in April, but Novo terminated it in June, accusing Hims of "deceptive promotion" of illegitimate knockoffs using unsafe foreign ingredients. This led to public sparring and immediate stock drops.

July 2025: Securities Class Action Lawsuit Initiated – Investors sued (Sookdeo v. Hims & Hers) alleging misleading statements about the Novo deal and risks of selling knockoffs, claiming executives hyped approved drugs while pushing unapproved versions.


September 2025: FDA Warning Letter for Unapproved Drugs – FDA issued a warning for unlawful sale of misbranded compounded semaglutide, citing false claims like "same active ingredient as Ozempic/Wegovy." This was part of a broader crackdown with over 100 letters to telehealth firms.


November 2025-January 2026: Securities Lawsuit Advances – Court appointed lead plaintiff and counsel in November; amended complaint filed in January, expanding claims of investor deception regarding regulatory compliance and partnerships.


February 2026: Launch and Rapid Halt of $49 Compounded Pill – Launched an oral compounded semaglutide pill on February 5 at $49/month, undercutting branded options. Novo threatened and filed a lawsuit for patent infringement and deceptive marketing, seeking a permanent sales ban. FDA announced restrictions on GLP-1 ingredients, citing safety/quality issues, and HHS referred Hims to DOJ for potential federal violations. Hims halted sales by February 7 amid backlash, with shares plunging up to 16%.


Ongoing 2026 Super Bowl Concerns – Ahead of the 2026 Super Bowl, consumer alerts highlighted risks in their ads promoting "personalized" compounded GLP-1s with untested additions (e.g., B vitamins), potentially leading to dosing errors and side effects.


Social media buzz amplified scrutiny, with users and analysts criticizing the company's "dangerous and deceptive" practices.

These issues have compounded financial pressures, with repeated stock tumbles and ongoing legal costs, highlighting the perils of challenging established pharma regulations without robust safeguards.

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:56 pm to
Is this over the various GLP peptides? I thought you couldn't patent a peptide. Or was HIMS copying something of NVO that was under patent?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14854 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 2:54 pm to
They were able to use "generic" or compounded versions of those drugs as long as there was a shortage of the real thing. The shortage ended early last year, IIRC. Yet, you can still get it compounded from plenty of other places that aren't being harassed.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16961 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:16 pm to
So big pharma using their might to crush the little guy. A tale as old as time.
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
1056 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:19 pm to
Grey market for the win, fuk pharma
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14854 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:19 pm to
What? Hims is publicly listed, and "the big guy" in compounding these drugs. The compounding places that can still sell it are small and not publicly listed.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
1012 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 4:37 pm to
This popped 40% after hours on Friday. My cost basis is $22, I hope it goes to 30+
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14854 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 5:13 pm to
It looks like they announced a deal with 1-Novo after market close on Friday. I think my cost basis was around 35 about two years ago.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31244 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 5:49 pm to
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They somehow think that rules don't apply to them. Turns out that you can't just revolutionize the medical industry. Who knew?!

It's been fascinating to watch.

I've been warning people. They were doing anything revolutionary except skirting the laws, practicing medicine improperly and profiting until it all got shut down. Not to mention there are a ton of compound pharmacies that can provide the same services and goods just as cheap or cheaper. Kudos to them for hitting a lick, but I'd be shocked if they are still solvent in a year or two.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31244 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

They were able to use "generic" or compounded versions of those drugs as long as there was a shortage of the real thing. The shortage ended early last year, IIRC. Yet, you can still get it compounded from plenty of other places that aren't being harassed.

They're much smaller, private companies. They will go after them one by one. This happened with plavix awhile back and some others meds. HIMS pushed it to far and got too big for their britches. You have to shite and get, then wait for the next big thing. Hard to keep shareholders happy doing that though.

Not to mention the fact that Ozempic goes off patent next year.
This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 5:54 pm
Posted by cptigger
Nola
Member since Jun 2005
1595 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:26 am to
Some good news for all the HIMS investors today.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25467 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:59 am to
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Not to mention there are a ton of compound pharmacies that can provide the same services and goods just as cheap or cheaper


There are, the problem is the prescription to get it in the first place. They started off like Bluechew doing the boner pills and pivoted into weight loss as well. Those places are online one-stop shop, with a about a 100% you are getting a prescription for whatever you want and the medication is going to be mailed at a reasonable cost people can live with. Normally there is not even a cost for the online doctor visit.

If you have to go through your primary doctor to get items like this, it does not always work out or they are cool with it, however do not partner with a compound pharmacy. The price of something like Wegovy on insurance vs. off is staggering and insurance is going to deny everyone if they can.

Compound pharmacies need to do better advertising and hooking up with doctors into Quality of Life medicine.

Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5524 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:42 pm to
I made a ton off of them today.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
1012 posts
Posted on 3/11/26 at 9:27 am to
Moving today, let’s get to 30+ please!
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