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When was the last time a libertarian got anything accomplished?
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:51 am
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:51 am
Yea they sometimes say some things we like about the Federal Reserve or taxes, but that’s about it
When push comes to shove, they always provide cover and support to Democrats and stab us in the back when we need them most.
They simply don’t make very good political allies. And they have absolute no long term vision for how the policies they like would actually become a reality.
They don’t understand incrementalism, and the importance of having political power and wielding it against your enemies and in support of your friends. This a total foreign concept to them, they have a very utopian and rose tinted view on how politics is supposed to work or should work. They believe everything is like “Mr Smith goes to Washington” and they will win the day with a stirring speech.
They are totally useless, and sadly I think they wear their uselessness and ineffectiveness as a badge of honor.
When push comes to shove, they always provide cover and support to Democrats and stab us in the back when we need them most.
They simply don’t make very good political allies. And they have absolute no long term vision for how the policies they like would actually become a reality.
They don’t understand incrementalism, and the importance of having political power and wielding it against your enemies and in support of your friends. This a total foreign concept to them, they have a very utopian and rose tinted view on how politics is supposed to work or should work. They believe everything is like “Mr Smith goes to Washington” and they will win the day with a stirring speech.
They are totally useless, and sadly I think they wear their uselessness and ineffectiveness as a badge of honor.
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:53 am to burger bearcat
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When was the last time a libertarian got anything accomplished?
About a month ago.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:53 am to burger bearcat
Not their fault the two party system is broken. There’s no way to get anything accomplished when you’re that small of a minority.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:53 am to GumboPot
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:56 am to TigahJay
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Not their fault the two party system is broken. There’s no way to get anything accomplished when you’re that small of a minority.
BS
We have always had a 2 party system
You build coalitions and make deals. They just suck as allies and partners. They are not loyal and stab their allies in the back
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:56 am to GumboPot
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About a month ago.
Co sponsoring a democrats bill
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:57 am to burger bearcat
Thankfully Trump doesn’t need them. They are unloyal pieces of filth.
There’s enough people on Team Trump that it makes libertarians like Massie useless.
There’s enough people on Team Trump that it makes libertarians like Massie useless.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 9:58 am
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:57 am to burger bearcat
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Yea they sometimes say some things we like about the Federal Reserve or taxes, but that’s about it
Legalizing dope and hookers has been a party planks since their party was founded. They have always been nothing more than a clown show.
That is why their St. Ayn Rand made fun of them as really being Marxists but that part was already taken by smarter people.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:00 am to burger bearcat
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When push comes to shove, they always provide cover and support to Democrats and stab us in the back when we need them most.
Wrong. In the last presidential election, the national party chair and several of their leading voices went all in behind Trump. Pissed off a bunch of their rank-and-file and effectively split the party.
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They simply don’t make very good political allies. And they have absolute no long term vision for how the policies they like would actually become a reality.
This is exactly why a bunch of them lined up behind Trump. Their argument was that the outcomes of a Trump Admin would be more libertarian than any elected Libertarian could deliver during our lifetimes. So you are 100% wrong again.
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They are totally useless, and sadly I think they wear their uselessness and ineffectiveness as a badge of honor.
You need to learn the difference between libertarians and Libertarians. The former are generally common-sense (pun intended) people who vote against leftist nonsense. The latter are a bit kooky and miss the forest for the trees, in my opinion.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:00 am to Jugbow
A libertarian getting something done, that forced a bill passage 427-1 in the House and 100-0 in the Senate and signed by the president that currently has a small faction on this board with their hair on fire.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:03 am to burger bearcat
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Yea they sometimes say some things we like about the Federal Reserve or taxes, but that’s about it
When push comes to shove, they always provide cover and support to Democrats and stab us in the back when we need them most.
They simply don’t make very good political allies. And they have absolute no long term vision for how the policies they like would actually become a reality.
They don’t understand incrementalism, and the importance of having political power and wielding it against your enemies and in support of your friends. This a total foreign concept to them, they have a very utopian and rose tinted view on how politics is supposed to work or should work. They believe everything is like “Mr Smith goes to Washington” and they will win the day with a stirring speech.
They are totally useless, and sadly I think they wear their uselessness and ineffectiveness as a badge of honor.
If they had some kind of rational leadership, I think they could essentially take the GOP ball and run with it. But instead they like to just gab it up about this and that, and then get nothing done.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:03 am to GumboPot
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forced a bill passage 427-1 in the House and 100-0 in the Senate and signed by the president
THAT is accomplishing something.
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currently has a small faction on this board with their hair on fire.
THAT is a Tuesday.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:07 am to burger bearcat
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When was the last time a libertarian got anything accomplished?
Javier Milei.
Other countries in South America are now following his lead.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:08 am to MSMHater
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THAT is a Tuesday.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:08 am to burger bearcat
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When was the last time a libertarian got anything accomplished?
libertarian or Libertarian?
Big difference.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:09 am to burger bearcat
A libertarian ended Argentina’s housing crisis in less than a month. Buenos Aires was one of the least affordable cities in the Americas. Now, it’s one of the most affordable. Libertarianism is revolutionizing Argentina.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:10 am to BarnHater
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Thankfully Trump doesn’t need them. They are unloyal pieces of filth
To whom do they need to be loyal to?
Such loving language.
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There’s enough people on Team Trump that it makes libertarians like Massie useless.
Is there really?
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:18 am to burger bearcat
there are 400,000 elected offices in the united states, 55 are held by libtardtarians. if libtardtarian were going to be a thing it'd be a thing by now.
the fact that they get the ballot access that they do is absurd and intentional.
the fact that they get the ballot access that they do is absurd and intentional.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:19 am to TigahJay
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Not their fault the two party system is broken.
It's the Libertarian's fault that their platform is so bad. Open borders, bad trade deals, America Last.
It's their fault that they have such bad leaders: Massie, Rand, Jo Jo. Vermin Supreme was the best one; at least he was in on the joke.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:19 am to UtahCajun
Loyalty is stupid. You side with a politician when they are pushing for policies you agree with, then you oppose them when they are not. Just because you voted for a politician doesn’t mean you agree with them 100% of the time. This board has no tolerance for nuance, integrity, or intellectual honesty. It always devolves into tribalism.
I don’t promote individual liberty to help my tribe and hurt another. I promote liberty because it is the best and most sustainable philosophy for the most people possible.
I don’t promote individual liberty to help my tribe and hurt another. I promote liberty because it is the best and most sustainable philosophy for the most people possible.
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