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Saudis changed their tune ... Bomb, Bomb, Bomb ... Bomb-Bomb, Iran
Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:56 am
Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:56 am
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Scoop: Saudi defense minister says Trump not bombing Iran would embolden regime
by Barak Ravid, Zachary Basu
12hrs ago
Saudi Defense Minister Prince Khalid bin Salman (KBS) said in a private briefing on Friday in Washington that if President Trump doesn't follow through on his threats against Iran, the regime will end up stronger, four sources in the room tell Axios.
Why it matters: This is a reversal from the public Saudi talking points cautioning against escalation and from the deep concern Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) expressed to Trump three weeks ago. That warning was one reason Trump decided to delay a strike.
Catch up quick: KBS, the crown prince's younger brother and closest confidant, was visiting Washington for meetings on Iran as the region braces for U.S. military action, and a response Tehran has vowed would be "unprecedented" in scope.
• Trump has ordered a massive U.S. military buildup in the Gulf, though White House officials insist he hasn't made a final decision and is still willing to explore diplomacy.
• At the moment, there are no serious direct negotiations between the U.S. and Iran. U.S. officials say Tehran doesn't seem interested in a deal based on the maximalist U.S. terms.
• "Iran always wants to make a deal. But what kind of deal do you want to make is the problem. What kind of deal Iran wants to make and what kind of deal the U.S. accepts? That's a very good question, and we don't see it coming together at this point," a Gulf official said.
Driving the news: KBS held a lengthy meeting at the White House on Thursday with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, White House envoy Steve Witkoff and Joint Chiefs chair Gen. Dan Caine.
The primary focus was on the possibility of a U.S. strike in Iran, according to a source with knowledge.
Between the lines: Saudi Arabia's public posture has been very cautious. MBS told Iran's president in a call on Wednesday that the kingdom would not allow the U.S. to use its airspace for an attack on Iran.
The Saudis said in a statement that they respect Iran's sovereignty and seek a diplomatic solution.
Behind the scenes: KBS was less restrained in an hour-long meeting on Friday with around 15 think tank experts on the Middle East and representatives from five Jewish organizations.
• According to the sources, he said he thought Trump would have to take military action after threatening it for weeks, but would also have to try to mitigate the risks of regional escalation.
• "At this point, if this doesn't happen, it will only embolden the regime," KBS said, according to the sources in the room.
• Two sources said they understood KBS to be reflecting the message he'd conveyed at the White House. However, he also said he left that meeting without a clear idea of what the Trump administration's strategy or intentions were on Iran.
• In a separate briefing on Friday, a Gulf official said the region was "stuck" in a position where the U.S. striking Iran risked "bad outcomes," but not doing so would mean "Iran will come out of this stronger."
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 7:22 am to NC_Tigah
The Saudis have no real say so in this matter as the US has all the military strength.
Generally, Muslim nations band together and don't advocate for a non Muslim nation.
The Saudis know they are only protected by US power given their stance on Iran.
Generally, Muslim nations band together and don't advocate for a non Muslim nation.
The Saudis know they are only protected by US power given their stance on Iran.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 7:25 am to NC_Tigah
The enemy of my enemy is my friend....until such time as that enemy is vanquished. 
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:05 am to NC_Tigah
I have an idea. How about the Saudis bomb Iran.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:42 am to La Place Mike
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How about the Saudis bomb Iran.
Agree...but the Saudis are no military power
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:45 am to NC_Tigah
Saudis should bomb Iran themselves if they feel it’s it needed
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:48 am to lepdagod
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Saudis should bomb Iran themselves if they feel it’s it needed
Scared they'd get their butts kicked. Saudi only wields oil power. They would get missiled into the Stone Age by Iran.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:53 am to NC_Tigah
Why don't they put their own blood and treasure on the line?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:54 am to GoAwayImBaitn
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but the Saudis are no military power
Saudi Arabia vs Iran
Total Aircraft: 917 to 551
Tank Strength: 2,675 to 1,085
Armored Vehicles:75,939 to 22,370
Self-Propelled Artillery: 380 to 424
Corvettes: 3 to 9
Patrol Vessels: 21 to 9
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:56 am to NC_Tigah
Direct strikes in key IRGC facilities then just drop plane loads of crates of small arms and ammo. The people will take care of the rest.
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 8:57 am
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:58 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Scared they'd get their butts kicked. Saudi only wields oil power. They would get missiled into the Stone Age by Iran.
Correct… because of that reason the Saudis should keep their opinions concerning matters of war to themselves… the Saudi’s will always be “walking on eggshells” when it comes to the American public behind 9/11 and Bin Ladin…some of the same thinking in we should bomb Iran can be applied to we should bomb Saudi Arabia
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:00 am to GoAwayImBaitn
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The Saudis have no real say so in this matter as the US has all the military strength
Bad take baw..... Saudi does have influence on what happens in the ME.
Not in a military sense, but in a geopolitical and economic sense.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:02 am to GoAwayImBaitn
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The Saudis have no real say so in this matter as the US has all the military strength.
Except they do. They are the reason nothing has happened already. It all has to do with how oil is traded.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:02 am to GoAwayImBaitn
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The Saudis have no real say so in this matter as the US has all the military strength.
This is ignorance. The Saudis absolutely have influence with Trump. Maybe not as much as Israel but it wouldn't be wise to keep them completely out of the discussion.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:03 am to NC_Tigah
This apparent whiplash more likely reveals no new intelligence, but instead is a propaganda shift designed to justify deeper U.S. military involvement.
The real issue here is the underlying assumption that the United States exists as a global problem-solver of last resort.
That is globalism writ large.
The real issue here is the underlying assumption that the United States exists as a global problem-solver of last resort.
That is globalism writ large.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:03 am to lake chuck fan
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Bad take baw..... Saudi does have influence on what happens in the ME.
Not in a military sense, but in a geopolitical and economic sense.
And that economic sense has enough pull to influence things globally.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:04 am to lepdagod
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some of the same thinking in we should bomb Iran can be applied to we should bomb Saudi Arabia
So, bomb them all and let Allah sort them out?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:04 am to GoAwayImBaitn
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Agree...but the Saudis are no military power
They need use all if the military hardware they bought from and then replace it.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:08 am to lake chuck fan
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Not in a military sense, but in a geopolitical and economic sense.
The “say” they have is because we allow them to have it (we being America)… all these relationships could change on a whim… if we put the clown crown price of Iran back in power Iran will assume the position the Saudi’s now hold
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:12 am to NC_Tigah
I can promise you this with 99% confidence, the Saudis only changed their tune publicly.
The Saudis have been on board with regime change in Iran for as long as I can remember. They know with great confidence that it has been the Iranian intelligence apparatus that has been responsible for ALL conflict in the Middle East in some capacity.
Whether that has been in Lebanon, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, or any where else in the region, Iran has had a hand in causing chaos.
The Saudis have been on board with regime change in Iran for as long as I can remember. They know with great confidence that it has been the Iranian intelligence apparatus that has been responsible for ALL conflict in the Middle East in some capacity.
Whether that has been in Lebanon, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, or any where else in the region, Iran has had a hand in causing chaos.
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