For all my life, I was told that JFK was a shitty president and I believed it.

JFK was not a good president. But the press made it out to be "Camelot"

RFK Jr does not have a good track record other than being involved in envirowhacko causes

Okay but there is a ton of smoke around the Kennedy Assassination. Oswald’s movements in the time leading up, Ruby assassinating him, back and to the left, you name it man. Howard Hunton his deathbed?

Let's double our edible tallow imports to over 1 million tons per year.

JFK did lower income tax rate. That's about it for the good

LBJ got all of JFK's societal reforms passed, political payoffs that flipped most black voters to only vote Dem from voting GOP. Those were JFK's idea for a welfare state.

I agree with your revelations about JFK being a 'shitty POTUS' - but I think he was wrong about Cuba.

His non-support for the Bay Of Pigs invasion gave us over an half century of a danger from Cuba.

Part of my dislike stemmed from the discussion of that subject during the famous "debate" - he actually chided Nixon for "not having any plans to take care of the Cuba situation"

I agreed at the time - then I learned that he had been briefed about the Bay of Pigs plans - but Nixon could not say anything about it during the debate.

I think that was a big decision point in the election - I believe Nixon would have won that election except for the apparent "weakness" he showed in that debate.

Now I voted for Nixon anyway, but I know of a lot of people who did not - and that was the reason.

All a lie - JFK knew of the plan and knew Nixon could not reveal it.

And when JFK refused to support the invasion I was pissed.

BUT - other than that, I was wrong about JFK - there obviously a lot about the Cuba situation I still do not know about.

BUT I became more appreciative of JFK during his tenure - and mourned his assassination.

I really don't know who I;d have voted for in the '64 election had it been JFK v Nixon instead of LBJ v Nixon.

I would have never voted for LBJ for anything = one of the worst POTUS in history = although whoever was wielding the Auto-Pen during the Biden admin runs a close race for that title.

I believe our history would have been much nicer to us had JFK - or RMN - or Goldwater been elected in '64.

ANYBODY other than LBJ, who set us on a road to ruin we are still trying to get off of.

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Johnson was a snake

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Johnson knew how to wield power, while Kennedy did not. LBJ had been known as a go to legislator to get things done when he was in the legislation,
when FDR was in office.

I completely get that LBJ was corrupt. My uncle would spot him at the Lamar Hotel in Houston often Brown and Root had two floors at the Lamar Hotel in the 1960's The Lamar was a popular hotel for business travel back then, especially the oil patch.

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I really don't know who I;d have voted for in the '64 election had it been JFK v Nixon instead of LBJ v Nixon.

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Goldwater was the GOP nominee in '64.

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Johnson was a snake

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Allen Dulles was an even bigger snake. Sure were a lot of snakes around JFK. Kind of the same thing with another President.

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Other than FDR and Obama, our most damaging president

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Never heard of Woodrow Wilson??

JFK was a meth addict case closed you young boys