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‘I was just so Naive’: inside MTG’s break with Trump - NYT

Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:49 pm



NYT article
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Eleven days after Charlie Kirk was killed in September, Marjorie Taylor Greene, the third-term Georgia congresswoman, was watching his memorial service on TV as the luminaries of the conservative movement and the Trump administration gathered to pay tribute to the young activist.

What stayed with Greene long afterward were the last two speakers who took the stage. First there was Kirk’s widow, Erika, who stood in white before the crowd filling the Arizona stadium, lifted her tear-filled eyes and said that she forgave her husband’s killer. And then there was President Trump. “He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great, great purpose,” he said of Kirk. “He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That’s where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent, and I don’t want the best for them.”

“That was absolutely the worst statement,” Greene wrote to me in a text message months after the memorial service. And the contrast between Erika Kirk and the president was clarifying, she added. “It just shows where his heart is. And that’s the difference, with her having a sincere Christian faith, and proves that he does not have any faith.”

It also, Greene said, clarified something about herself. Over the past five years, as Trump’s most notorious acolyte in Congress, she had adopted his unrepentant pugilism as her own. “Our side has been trained by Donald Trump to never apologize and to never admit when you’re wrong,” she told me in her Capitol Hill office one afternoon in early December. “You just keep pummeling your enemies, no matter what. And as a Christian, I don’t believe in doing that. I agree with Erika Kirk, who did the hardest thing possible and said it out loud.”
Greene’s reaction put her in a distinct minority among influential conservative figures. Almost immediately after Kirk was declared dead, many of her comrades on the right — the billionaire Elon Musk, the Fox News host Jesse Watters, the podcaster Steve Bannon — labeled the killing an act of war by the left and exhorted their audience to think in similar terms.

But Greene — who for years took a back seat to no one when it came to reactionary rhetoric, going so far, before she was in office, as to accuse Democrats, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, of treasonous conduct and adding that treason was punishable by imprisonment or death — realized that she had suddenly lost all appetite for vengeance. She later told a friend, who confirmed the exchange: “After Charlie died, I realized that I’m part of this toxic culture. I really started looking at my faith. I wanted to be more like Christ.”

That was when the stress fracture that had been steadily widening between Greene and her political godfather became an irrevocable break. She had increasingly taken stands apart from the president and the Republican Party: declaring the war in Gaza a “genocide”; objecting to cryptocurrency and artificial-intelligence policies that, from her perspective, prioritized billionaire donors over working-class Americans; criticizing the Trump administration for approving foreign student visas, for enacting tariffs that hurt businesses in her district and for allowing Obamacare subsidies to expire.

Most significant, she defied the president and compliant House Republican leaders as she argued that all investigative material pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein should be released. “The Epstein files represent everything wrong with Washington,” Greene told me in December. “Rich, powerful elites doing horrible things and getting away with it. And the women are the victims.”
As Greene made her opinions known, first to Trump and his team and then publicly, she tested the affection of the man who once said of her in a posted statement endorsing her re-election: “Marjorie Taylor Greene is a warrior in Congress. She doesn’t back down, she doesn’t give up, and she has ALWAYS been with ‘Trump.’”
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:59 pm to
So ready for this woman to go away. Was she upset because her construction company was being deprived of its cheap illegal labor? Or was it the fact that Trump wouldn’t support a senate run? The people in her Georgia district deserve better.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:00 pm to
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She is predicting that Trump will start a war to remain in power past his second term

At lease make the lie a little more believable.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:01 pm to
She didn't like the dwindling amount of attention she was getting so she turned heel to get her adrenaline hit of more attention.
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:03 pm to
She seems stable.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:03 pm to
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Or was it the fact that Trump wouldn’t support a senate run?

The story I heard was that Trump's people sent her internal polling (quietly, behind the scenes) showing her that she didn't have a chance in hell. This is her attempt to raise those numbers. Doubt it will work, but whores gotta whore.
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:07 pm to
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She is predicting that Trump will start a war to remain in office...


All that blah, blah, blah about wanting to get out of the toxic MAGA populist culture (which it is), then she leans right into the most toxic populist tactic possible with this nonsense.

Wonder what really made her go turncoat.
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:08 pm to
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This is her attempt to raise those numbers.


I dunno if that is true, but it certainly makes more sense than her story.
Posted by Doctor B
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:08 pm to
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“That was absolutely the worst statement (by Trump),” Greene wrote

Trump came within inches of being assassinated.
You are someone staring at a TV criticizing him for going back at his opponents.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:13 pm to
I should have prefaced that with "I think" this is her attempt to raise her polling. Can't imagine what else she thinks this gets her unless she's gearing up for a party switch.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Rip Torn
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:18 pm to
Her political career is over with the exception of trying to run for her seat which I am not even sure if she would win it against a strong challenger
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:20 pm to
Posters actually claimed MTG was good looking
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:21 pm to
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Her political career is over with the exception of trying to run for her seat which I am not even sure if she would win it against a strong challenger


Uh, if you quit on your constituents and leave them without representation, you ain’t winning the seat back.
Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:22 pm to
A naive attention whore, now there's a funny one
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
53022 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:24 pm to
Chick was banging two guys at her gym in Atlanta. A commie gym. Pause the self-righteous bullshite marge.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:46 pm to
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“I never liked the MAGA Mar-a-Lago sexualization. I believe how women in leadership present themselves sends a message to younger women.”


Says the broad who was literally sucking Kevin McCarthy’s dick.
Posted by ItzMe1972
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:48 pm to
No Paywall Article:


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This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:50 pm to
It is a bit sad, watching people turn on their hero(ine)s.
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