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Olave, London, or Wilson
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:00 pm
These guys were drafted in the first round of the same draft. Each have had below average QB play for most of their careers, injuries, and losing teams. Yet, coming into this season I think most fans would have labeled Olave as the bust and the other two as budding stars.
Today, I wonder who most NFL fans would take. Below are their career stats:
London: 304 rec., 3,879 yards, 21 TD, 12.8 avg., 4 lost fumbles
Wilson: 315 rec., 3,644 yards, 18 TD, 11.6 avg., 5 lost fumbles
Olave: 291 rec., 3,728, 19 TD, 12.8 avg., 3 lost fumbles
I think a full year of Shough at QB next year is going to put Olave’s name high up on the best WR rankings.
Today, I wonder who most NFL fans would take. Below are their career stats:
London: 304 rec., 3,879 yards, 21 TD, 12.8 avg., 4 lost fumbles
Wilson: 315 rec., 3,644 yards, 18 TD, 11.6 avg., 5 lost fumbles
Olave: 291 rec., 3,728, 19 TD, 12.8 avg., 3 lost fumbles
I think a full year of Shough at QB next year is going to put Olave’s name high up on the best WR rankings.
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:04 pm to NewBeginnings
London is best of the 3. Olave is a good player with a few holes in his game. Wilson seems like he’s constantly hurt.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:05 pm to NewBeginnings
They’re all very different types of players. I’d take Olave last of the group due to the numerous concussions though. Their impact long term can’t be overstated. It’s hard to be fully invested in a guy who could easily be out of the league in his 20s.
Otherwise I think him and Wilson would have fairly similar ceilings. If qb play was equal across the board I’d probably lean London as there aren’t that many really good guys that are his size.
Otherwise I think him and Wilson would have fairly similar ceilings. If qb play was equal across the board I’d probably lean London as there aren’t that many really good guys that are his size.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:09 pm to NewBeginnings
quote:Bust is a hell of a stretch. He had like one bad season with the concussions, otherwise he's been a very good WR with sub-par QB play and coaching. Whether London or Wilson are better is a reasonable question, but no sane person calls Olave a bust.
Yet, coming into this season I think most fans would have labeled Olave as the bust and the other two as budding stars
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:40 pm to NewBeginnings
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Yet, coming into this season I think most fans would have labeled Olave as the bust
Bust? No. Most everyone said he's a solid WR2 who has a bad concussion history and will likely demand WR1 money for his extension.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:44 pm to Handsome Pete
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:46 pm to NewBeginnings
quote:
Yet, coming into this season I think most fans would have labeled Olave as the bust
The draft capital used to trade for Olave rears its ugly head in every game. It was and has been a huge set back for this franchise
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:53 pm to Pendulum
You can thank Darrick Carr for those hosital balls he threw olave
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:57 pm to Lester Earl
For what the Saints paid for him he is close to a bust.As a #2-3 WRhe is ok.Ihope they don’t overpay him in the future.He can’t make the great catches like JJ,Jamal, OB III .
Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:06 pm to Pendulum
I don't get your point. I said he had one bad season due to injury, which is true. You link to his "injury risk" like that's scientific or something. His future injury risk has nothing to do with whether he was a bust or not. The dude is about to get around $30 million a year. Better start getting used to it.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:25 pm to Lester Earl
And we did that with Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston, and Andy Dalton as our qbs going into 2022.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:27 pm to Handsome Pete
I sent you a link that shows he's had "concussion" issues all the way back to college in 2020, in fact, 2025 is the only year without a concussion issue. So it's not something that was isolated in 1 season as you insinuate to support your over arching point. I don't care about any of those projections at the top of the page, it was the history list if you scroll down that I was looking at. I didn't realize it was a paid link, so you only have a few looks at it.
Any rational person should look at that and think he's a huge risk for concussions, a much higher risk than a comparable WR without that history.
I'm not saying he's not getting paid, or what he's worth. I'm just pointing out that saying he only had injury problems in one year is minimization and a logical fallacy.
The man said he was considering retiring this past year, and saw a specialist on concussions. He's even seemingly playing different specifically to avoid concussions, as just about every local pundit has discussed this year. He obviously was concerned himself, so dismissing it is a
to me.
Any rational person should look at that and think he's a huge risk for concussions, a much higher risk than a comparable WR without that history.
I'm not saying he's not getting paid, or what he's worth. I'm just pointing out that saying he only had injury problems in one year is minimization and a logical fallacy.
The man said he was considering retiring this past year, and saw a specialist on concussions. He's even seemingly playing different specifically to avoid concussions, as just about every local pundit has discussed this year. He obviously was concerned himself, so dismissing it is a
to me.This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:35 pm to Handsome Pete
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I don't get your point. I said he had one bad season due to injury, which is true.
He has had concussions spanning several years. This makes risk of future concussions greater. I don’t think anyone is denying he’s going to get paid close to low WR1 price on his next deal. But whatever team does that better find a way to get out of that deal if his career is cut short which has a much higher likelihood than his peers.
I’d also imagine there would be multiple front offices in the nfl that wouldn’t retain his services due to the risk.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:48 pm to Pendulum
quote:What does any of that have to do with this thread? My post was to point out Olave had one bad season and to even hint he might have been a bust is ridiculous. That is true. His prior injury history or future risk has nothing to do with that, so I don't know the point of your concussion tangent.
sent you a link that shows he's had "concussion" issues all the way back to college in 2020, in fact, 2025 is the only year without a concussion issue. So it's not something that was isolated in 1 season as you insinuate to support your over arching point.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:54 pm to MetArl15
quote:
Olave is a good player with a few holes in his game
Yes, but the holes are due to him playing scared since his first injury. He is an all-world talent that loses focus too often.
He is starting to show more confidence in himself, and if he regains his fire and confidence then he can be a truly great #1WR for us. I've been his biggest critic on here the last couple of years, but I absolutely want him to become great. He's a truly decent human being, and he is the type of person and player that all of us should want to succeed.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 4:08 pm to Handsome Pete
quote:
He had like one bad season with the concussions
DNE
quote:
My post was to point out Olave had one bad season
with the concussions.
quote:
His prior injury history or future risk has nothing to do with that, so I don't know the point of your concussion tangent.
Based on most reporting, basically the only reason he is playing right now without an extension done is because of the concussions. So it is very relevant to any discussion of comparing him to his class mates and you falsely claimed he had only one season where concussions were an issue, or alternatively you made a poor choice of words if that isn't what you meant.
Also, prior concussion history significantly increases the risk for future concussions, and that is scientific, so any team assessing his value, you better believe is going to have concussions at the top of his "cons" list.
Just pointing out a falsehood in your first statement in the thread. Not going to spin in circles over this anymore, you can have last word.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 5:39 pm to Pendulum
quote:OK, I think I see the problem. You read "He had like one bad season with the concussions" as a 'falsehood' (weird word choice) because he's had concussions in other seasons. The point of that sentence was that he had one bad season, full stop, in an otherwise very good NFL career. That's it - which is manifestly not a falsehood. Just trying to point out he was never in "bust" territory as OP suggested. I was not being dismissive of his overall concussion history and could've left that part out if I'd known it was triggering to some of you.
Just pointing out a falsehood in your first statement in the thread
Posted on 12/29/25 at 5:58 pm to MetArl15
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Wilson seems like he’s constantly hurt.
This is just an objectively false statement. GWilson played in 51 of 51 games in his first 3 seasons. He is by far the best player of those 3 in that class. The fact that he is comparable in stats with Zach Wilson, Fields, and the likes of Tyrod Taylor throwing him the ball is truly a marvel. GW is a top 5 WR waiting for a QB worth a single shite.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 6:00 pm to spaghettioeauxs
Wilson definitely isn’t significantly better than Olave, and I’ve been hard on Olave
Posted on 12/29/25 at 6:02 pm to DBG
He is significantly better. GW is an alpha WR1 that should command 10-15 targets a game. Olave is a very good WR2 that should see 8-10 targets a game.
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