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How do you protect Battleships in the modern era? Trump building 25
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:22 pm
There is a vast array of weapons, missiles, planes and torpedos that can deal with large slow surface ships.
Wouldn’t aircraft carriers and massive drone carriers be a better investment.
Are these to sail into the Taiwan strait and deal with Chinas man made defense Islands?
Wouldn’t aircraft carriers and massive drone carriers be a better investment.
Are these to sail into the Taiwan strait and deal with Chinas man made defense Islands?
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 4:27 pm
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:23 pm to ItTakesAThief
R2D2 with a minigun.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:29 pm to ItTakesAThief
I always put them in a column somewhere towards the bottom of the board, and hope they don't sink it.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:29 pm to TheBoo
Those underwater drones seem impressive
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:29 pm to ItTakesAThief
Submarines as drone launch platforms is where it’s at.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:32 pm to ItTakesAThief
Honestly it’s all outdated. No one is getting in a kinetic war with us. They will continue eroding us slowly like they’ve been the last 50 years. Buy the politicians, erode the education system and flood it with mass immigration.
The US didn’t turn into a shite hole over night.
The US didn’t turn into a shite hole over night.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:33 pm to ItTakesAThief
Maybe they think that the computer warfare will be so advanced that computer systems will be shut down and everything will be dumb.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:34 pm to ItTakesAThief
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There is a vast array of weapons, missiles, planes and torpedos that can deal with large slow surface ships.
Wouldn’t aircraft carriers and massive drone carriers be a better investment.
So big battleships are easy targets but not bigger aircraft carriers or "massive" drone carriers?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:35 pm to terd ferguson
They have stand off weapons and air assets for protection
Battleship guns have to pull right up to the target
Battleship guns have to pull right up to the target
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:46 pm to ItTakesAThief
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They have stand off weapons and air assets for protection
Battleships were usually part of a carrier group... so there's air assets. And you can mount the same weapons systems on a battleship.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:50 pm to terd ferguson
It’s pointless. You’re better off taking whatever trillions you spend constructing a single modern battleship, and buying a bunch of underwater drones and retrofitting destroyers to launch them.
Battleships are a completely worthless endeavor in the modern era.
Battleships are a completely worthless endeavor in the modern era.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:53 pm to terd ferguson
Why huge expensive battleships when you can build multiple destroyers for the same price? Much more flexibility and theater coverage versus what is only going to amount to a massive missile truck that’s going to be hugely expensive to maintain.
And like others mentioned, our focus really should be towards drone ships, above and below surface.
And like others mentioned, our focus really should be towards drone ships, above and below surface.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:54 pm to Hateradedrink
Next up, PBY Catalinas...
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:54 pm to uziyourillusion
Can’t compensate for a tiny dick by building a bunch of maneuverable destroyers. It has to be a yuge Trump-class battleship.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:56 pm to Hateradedrink
I agree the age of the battleship has passed us by. They were obsolete as weapons to fight other ships at the start of WW2.
However, this is an argument for the need to support amphibious landings and while we can do this with missiles to a large degree, their expense is high for that job.
I could see us needing some sort of gun platform to support an island/sea battlespace like we may see in the Western Pacific but this would not require a "battleship" but rather something that could do the job and then be protected by air and destroyer fleet while not actively supporting littoral or amphibian operations.
However, this is an argument for the need to support amphibious landings and while we can do this with missiles to a large degree, their expense is high for that job.
I could see us needing some sort of gun platform to support an island/sea battlespace like we may see in the Western Pacific but this would not require a "battleship" but rather something that could do the job and then be protected by air and destroyer fleet while not actively supporting littoral or amphibian operations.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:57 pm to uziyourillusion
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Why huge expensive battleships when you can build multiple destroyers for the same price?
Nostalgia. No other reason.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:58 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Battleship guns have to pull right up to the target
No, they do not. The maximum range of an Iowa-class battleship's main guns at the end of World War II was 24 miles. Now with radar guided projectiles like Raytheon's Excalibur munitions and more advanced weapons technology, you can extend that range and fire more accurately.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:59 pm to crash1211
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:00 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Maybe they think that the computer warfare will be so advanced that computer systems will be shut down and everything will be dumb.
Hear me out...let's build some sailing ships armed with cannons.
No way to hack those.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:01 pm to RollTide1987
24 miles is right next to the target in 2026.
You’ve been sunk about 10x before you got within 100 miles if you’re planning on engagement with guns.
You’ve been sunk about 10x before you got within 100 miles if you’re planning on engagement with guns.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 5:02 pm
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