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Shough fixed Johnson and Olave
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:00 pm
They are absolutely money now.
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:13 pm to saints5021
Olave is NOT money
Johnson has improved TREMENDOUSLY with Shough throwing to him though
Johnson has improved TREMENDOUSLY with Shough throwing to him though
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:13 pm to saints5021
Johnson has done a 180
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:16 pm to saints5021
Shough throws a very catchable spiral and doesn’t generally lead his receivers into danger.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:22 pm to infantry1026
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Olave is NOT money
Olave is a highly skilled player that is a stat machine who has and continues to make awful drops that induce head shaking moments and cries of “fricking olave”
Unfortunately Shough has not fixed that.
Johnson has been money the last few games. I hope he has had a true turnaround, and I really do hope Olave becomes reliable and dependable
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:28 pm to Midget Death Squad
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Olave is a highly skilled player that is a stat machine who has and continues to make awful drops that induce head shaking moments and cries of “fricking olave”
Unfortunately Shough has not fixed that.
Johnson has been money the last few games. I hope he has had a true turnaround, and I really do hope Olave becomes reliable and dependable
I agree with all of this……unfortunately I think that this is who Olave is though. He is not going to be that DOMINANT #1WR that should get paid what he will want to get paid (unless some unforeseen jump occurs). But if he can be more dependable AND stay for WR2 money….. I wouldn’t have any reservations about re-signing him.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:29 pm to infantry1026
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Olave is NOT money
No he's not, he's serviceable, there's a difference.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:30 pm to Chrome
He's pushing top 10 in receiving yards
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:31 pm to msstate7
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He's pushing top 10 in receiving yards
Because of the volume of targets……not because he’s dominant
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:32 pm to infantry1026
So he's getting open to target?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:36 pm to msstate7
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So he's getting open to target?
Can't really depend on him to make the critical catches.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:36 pm to msstate7
Since shough took over, Olave...
40 catches 541 yds 4 td
7 games
40 catches 541 yds 4 td
7 games
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:37 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
True. Was all in on JJ being out. Congrats to him.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:46 pm to infantry1026
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Because of the volume of targets……not because he’s dominant
He has basically 40 more targets than Johnson and 20 more catches. That's bad.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:57 pm to saints5021
Olave 17 game pace with Shough
97 catches
1,313 yards
10 TDs
Olave 17 game pace with Rattler
110 catches
1,069 yards
6 TDs
He’s been a different player under Shough. Credit to Moore as well
97 catches
1,313 yards
10 TDs
Olave 17 game pace with Rattler
110 catches
1,069 yards
6 TDs
He’s been a different player under Shough. Credit to Moore as well
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:22 pm to GynoSandberg
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Olave 17 game pace with Shough 97 catches 1,313 yards 10 TDs Olave 17 game pace with Rattler 110 catches 1,069 yards 6 TDs He’s been a different player under Shough. Credit to Moore as well
It is good play calling, but it’s also the fact that Shough goes through his progressions much more than Rattler did. Shough also calls a lot more audibles and adjustments before the ball is snapped, resulting in better opportunities for the receivers.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:55 pm to msstate7
Olave is currently:
#3 in targets
#5 in catches
#6 in TDs
#6 in yds
#23 in yds/catch
Other than the low yds/catch (which is a design of the offense), he's put up top 5 WR numbers in the league this year. People aren't going to like it, but he's playing like a top 5 WR, at a time where passing numbers are down all across the league. He's going to get top 5 WR money, whether it is here or somewhere else.
#3 in targets
#5 in catches
#6 in TDs
#6 in yds
#23 in yds/catch
Other than the low yds/catch (which is a design of the offense), he's put up top 5 WR numbers in the league this year. People aren't going to like it, but he's playing like a top 5 WR, at a time where passing numbers are down all across the league. He's going to get top 5 WR money, whether it is here or somewhere else.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:04 pm to blackandgolddude
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He's going to get top 5 WR money, whether it is here or somewhere else.
Then he should get paid elsewhere. He is not clutch enough with contested catches to be paid like a top 5 receiver. I’d rather us draft one. Olave will cost us 1-2 games a year with huge drops.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:07 pm to Sofaking2
Yes, go cheap on weapons for our young qb
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:10 pm to msstate7
Olave shouldn’t be a top 5 receiver as far as pay. He is going to likely be frequently hurt, have concussions, drop passes, etc. We would be better off trading for a top 5 receiver if Olave wants to be paid like one. If he wants to be paid like a top 20 receiver then ok.
If he wants less than 30 million a year as someone here pointed out then maybe so. He should not get over 30+ from the Saints.
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The top 5 highest-paid NFL wide receivers by average annual salary (AAV) are currently led by
Ja'Marr Chase ($40.2M), followed by Justin Jefferson ($35M), CeeDee Lamb ($34M), DK Metcalf ($33M), and A.J. Brown ($32M), with Garrett Wilson, Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Tyreek Hill also near the top, as deals continue to evolve, though Chase's new deal with the Bengals makes him the highest-paid non-QB in NFL history.
If he wants less than 30 million a year as someone here pointed out then maybe so. He should not get over 30+ from the Saints.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 6:16 pm
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