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Highest rated g5 team vs highest rated g5 champ

Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:14 pm
there’s a scenario where g5 team A is 11-1 with wins vs several p4 teams but lost to g5 team B who is 9-3 and got rolled in their games against the p4 but won the conference.

team a should go to the playoff
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:21 pm to
Doesnt matter. Either team will lose by 2 scores
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62109 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

there’s a scenario where g5 team A is 11-1 with wins vs several p4 teams but lost to g5 team B who is 9-3 and got rolled in their games against the p4 but won the conference.

Neither team should go to the playoff


Fify

And there’s no rule that a G5 couldn’t be an at large selection if it were truly worthy.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42813 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:22 pm to
Top 12 teams, eliminate all set-asides. No guaranteed number of teams from any conference, no conference champions guaranteed a spot. Top 12 period. If you can't end up in the top 12, you don't deserve a shot.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2078 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:10 pm to
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team a should go to the playoff


Only if they beat a team that is ranked ahead of in the regular season.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13390 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:14 pm to
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Top 12 teams, eliminate all set-asides. No guaranteed number of teams from any conference, no conference champions guaranteed a spot. Top 12 period. If you can't end up in the top 12, you don't deserve a shot.

This. It’s literally this easy.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2078 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:30 pm to
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Top 12 teams, eliminate all set-asides. No guaranteed number of teams from any conference, no conference champions guaranteed a spot. Top 12 period. If you can't end up in the top 12, you don't deserve a shot.


Great idea except now this is the model for top tier G5 teams to not play decent P4. See UCF's 2017 team. They didn't play anyone all year. They need have some form of a quality win on their schedule.


Tulane lost to Ole Miss 45-10 this year. In what world did anyone think they had a chance of winning a playoff game?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42813 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:26 am to
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In what world did anyone think they had a chance of winning a playoff game?



No one thought they did; they only got in due to a set aside.

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Great idea except now this is the model for top tier G5 teams to not play decent P4.


That will then force the committee to weigh the SOS/SOR more heavily.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2036 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:29 am to
Man so many want to ruin college football even more. Who cares, I like that Tulane and JMU got in. I hope we keep having a G5 or 2 get in and eventually they pull a huge upset. We act like Tulane didn’t beat USC in the Cotton Bowl a couple seasons ago.

If we keep going this route, might as well cancel the regular season, we will look at recruiting rankings and potential draft grades and pic those teams smh
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2078 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:43 am to
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We act like Tulane didn’t beat USC in the Cotton Bowl a couple seasons ago


Here's the problem. We keep pointing to bowl game victories as proof a G5 can compete with a Top Tier P4 team. Go look at how many injuries and opt outs USC had in that bowl game. Then let's talk about the players give a shite factor to play in a meaningless exhibition game against fricking Tulane. Did focus on the game or having fun in Dallas. How much partying did they participate in that week?

Now compare that to a game where they are focussed on realizing their life long dream of winning a national championship.

How come we never point out the Top tier G5 schools beating a Top Tier P4 school? Its always a bowl!


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Man so many want to ruin college football even more.


Having a G5 team in playoffs is "ruining the game even more!"

You're going to get way more meaningless blowouts than upsets!
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 7:46 am
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2078 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:47 am to
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That will then force the committee to weigh the SOS/SOR more heavily


But will that outweigh an undefeated team that plays a weak arse schedule?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42813 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:57 am to
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But will that outweigh an undefeated team that plays a weak arse schedule?



Depends on how weak, I would guess.
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
730 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:00 am to
Truth is anything beyond a 4 team playoff is overkill and even that didn't go well with lots of lopsided semifinal games. 1 G5 team should get in every year in a 12 team playoff. They aren't getting beat any worse than the other P4 teams.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2395 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Top 12 teams, eliminate all set-asides.


Isn't this just like what we thought the 4 team playoff would be. Just the top 4 BCS ranked teams.

We have yet to get what we thought we'd get.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42813 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:40 am to
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Isn't this just like what we thought the 4 team playoff would be. Just the top 4 BCS ranked teams.



We pretty much got that with the 4-team CFP. I like the 12-team format, because there is always some variance in the rankings that means you could have a team outside the top 4 that probably deserves a shot at the title. Hence, the continuous arguments about that then. Now with 12, we are arguing about which team that we all agree has very little chance of winning it all should get in. I prefer that, personally.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2395 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:50 am to
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I like the 12-team format


I'm a fan of 8 teams, because I don't like the bye weeks. 8 should go to 16 and 16 is way too many. So 8.

Bye weeks in all playoff formats irritate me. I just don't think it's fair to get a week off to play the worst team in the second round. It's a double reward and also extends the season longer.

Baseball and basketball are where it gets me the most, needs to be less teams and longer series.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42813 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:32 am to
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I'm a fan of 8 teams, because I don't like the bye weeks. 8 should go to 16 and 16 is way too many. So 8.


I think, for me, 8 is where it still gets a little dicey with teams that could be legitimate contenders. But I like it better than 4.

If they went to 16 teams and eliminated the bye, the timing stays the same. Make the first two playoff games a home game for the higher seed, too. Semis and finals can be neutral sites.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2078 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:31 am to
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Truth is anything beyond a 4 team playoff is overkill and even that didn't go well with lots of lopsided semifinal games.


I don't necessarily disagree, but I think it should be 8 teams with conference championships as the first round.

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1 G5 team should get in every year in a 12 team playoff. They aren't getting beat any worse than the other P4 teams.


I completely disagree. This is nothing more than everyone gets a trophy mentality. I say this as a fan of a G5 team.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89628 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:33 am to
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Great idea except now this is the model for top tier G5 teams to not play decent P4


and with that being the case they won't be in the top 12.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2078 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:38 am to
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I think, for me, 8 is where it still gets a little dicey with teams that could be legitimate contenders. But I like it better than 4. If they went to 16 teams and eliminated the bye, the timing stays the same. Make the first two playoff games a home game for the higher seed, too. Semis and finals can be neutral sites.


This is where they are headed and it's going to ruin the Army Navy game. My guess going to be 20 teams with four teams getting a first round bye. Here is an excerpt from an article published last week:

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Any expansion beyond 16 teams will require either conference championship games going away or a calendar that pushes deeper into January and further back into the summer.
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