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Radical proposals to fix college football
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:36 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:36 am
Accidentally submitted this while trying to type everything out. I'll get everything posted later. Feel free to throw out ideas
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 1:37 am
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:38 am to rolltide32
Return to the BCS
End thread
End thread
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:45 am to Cockopotamus
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Return to the BCS
Use computers to pick teams again? All for it. Leave out the people voting part this time.
Doesn't address the fact that we need to reshape the structure of the season to make up for bloated conferences and disparity in schedules
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:45 am to rolltide32
8 team playoff, best teams get in regardless. Have championships decided by final ranking at the end of the season. If not then have It be a 16 team playoff with conference championship games serving as the first round, and if you arent playing in the conference championship then youre playing somebody in the top 14 or however it works out(conceivably there is a team or two playing in the conference championship that isnt ranked such as Duke or North Texas). Highest ranked G05 winner takes the slot, so itd be Tulane in this case. Make the rankings based on a mix of human and computer rankings, 50/50 weighting. You could do something about the conferences, revive the Pac-12, the Big 12 honestly seems to be in a better place so im not sure I would mess with them. But you could do that and recreate actual meaning within the conferences. I personally feel like the finals in CFB are less exciting with having a bunch of 11-1, 10-2 still going for the national championship. Give me the best undefeated teams and best 11-1 teams going at it because then it really feels like a heavyweight bout. If the portal is going to continue then you should have to sit a year(unless approved by waiver such as HC leaving or other issues) if you transfer after your freshman year but youre eligible to play immediately if its after your sophomore year, helps create some semblance of continuity. Portal window opens after the CFBP.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 2:30 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:47 am to rolltide32
There is nothing wrong with the playoff. Fixing NIL, Signing Day, and the Portal needs to be looked at first.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:48 am to Cockopotamus
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Return to the BCS
Really? That is the reason we have the playoff system. It was worse then. LOL!
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:52 am to rileytiger
Force teams to go back to the conferences they were in 10-15 years ago.
The current playoff just furthers my belief that this conference expansion is horrible and I hate it.
I have said it before and will again. The 12 team playoff would have been perfect in the prior set up where the Big XII was legit and the Pac 10 was around.
You would generally (this year with the ACC is an outlier) have 5 legit and good conference champs.
Like this year you'd have
Pac10-Oregon
Big10-Indiana
SEC-UGA
Big XII-OU (perhaps Tech but they've literally played crap)
ACC-Miami (hopefully the actual best teams would have been able to play the conf title game if it wasn't so diluted with the pac 10 leftovers they added).
So there are 5 teams.
Then you get 7 more teams. Let's say ND, Ohio State, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, maybe a Southern Cal (since they'd just play Pac 10 teams), and maybe Texas.
If some non power 5 team pulled a Boise, UCF, or Cincy and went undefeated they'd get in over some fringe team from a power 5.
The expansion has allowed SEC and Big 10 conference schedules to be diluted and watered down. And in turn a conference like the Big XII has been filled with average teams and very few good ones. I don't know wtf happened to the ACC. No reason they shouldn't be better. But they too have watered down the conference with second rate pac 10 teams and teams they added form non-P5 conferences.
The current playoff just furthers my belief that this conference expansion is horrible and I hate it.
I have said it before and will again. The 12 team playoff would have been perfect in the prior set up where the Big XII was legit and the Pac 10 was around.
You would generally (this year with the ACC is an outlier) have 5 legit and good conference champs.
Like this year you'd have
Pac10-Oregon
Big10-Indiana
SEC-UGA
Big XII-OU (perhaps Tech but they've literally played crap)
ACC-Miami (hopefully the actual best teams would have been able to play the conf title game if it wasn't so diluted with the pac 10 leftovers they added).
So there are 5 teams.
Then you get 7 more teams. Let's say ND, Ohio State, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, maybe a Southern Cal (since they'd just play Pac 10 teams), and maybe Texas.
If some non power 5 team pulled a Boise, UCF, or Cincy and went undefeated they'd get in over some fringe team from a power 5.
The expansion has allowed SEC and Big 10 conference schedules to be diluted and watered down. And in turn a conference like the Big XII has been filled with average teams and very few good ones. I don't know wtf happened to the ACC. No reason they shouldn't be better. But they too have watered down the conference with second rate pac 10 teams and teams they added form non-P5 conferences.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:00 am to rolltide32
College football is going to eventually get to 48-60 teams and two massive super conferences. It’s coming.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:03 am to Adam4848
I really hope not. Its possible but I really hope not, I don't want to see the model adopted where its like baseball where each team has a feeder team affiliate or something of the sorts. Dont want that NFL-MLB mashup.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:10 am to The Tiger322
Not following the baseball feeder team analogy
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:18 am to rileytiger
quote:
There is nothing wrong with the playoff.
Everything is wrong with the playoff and it's not even the playoffs fault it's the conference structures fault.
We're about to have 2 G5 teams in the playoff because we just had a 7-5 team win the ACC because a 17 team conference played an 8 game conference schedule and it led to most of its best teams not playing each other and ending in an excessively convoluted tie. The team that was first place in the conference outright with a 7-1 conference record lost a non conference game to a team in their conference. None of this is reasonable.
The SEC ended in a 4 way tie because a 16 team conference played an 8 game conference schedule and 3 teams get screwed from it. Ole Miss and A&M get locked out of a chance to play their way into a first round bye while Alabama is given the opportunity to play itself out of the playoff while their two nearest bubble contenders get to sit at home, rest, eat popcorn, and laugh at the shite show Alabama put onto the field.
The Big ten has 18 teams and plays a 9 game conference schedule. It was through pure dumb luck it managed to give us a championship that consisted of their two top teams because there aren't enough matchup of top teams in the conference because you don't play half of your conference.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:19 am to rolltide32
College football will be purchased by a group within the next couple years. It will be cut in half team wise and it will be a pro league but those of you who will fool yourselves into thinking it’s still college football will enjoy the more structured playoff and player pay structure that’s coming. Maybe 5 years or so before it’s all complete. So all this hand wringing over NIL and playoff expansion is for nothing. It’ll all soon be gone.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 2:21 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:20 am to rolltide32
quote:
Radical proposals to fix college football
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by rolltide32
I like it. A pre-emptive strike by a Bama fan who will be pissed when Bama is left out of the playoff, because of course something must be broken if the Tide can't get in, right??
Here is a radical proposal: don't take an arse-pounding from Florida State on opening night if you want to lock in a playoff berth.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 2:21 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:21 am to Adam4848
48-60 teams right? So its conceivable its effectively the SEC, old Big 10, Oregon, USC, Notre Dame, Utah maybe Washington with some big 12 and some ACC. Thats the equivalent of AAA, in this case with the NFL being the MLB. If that happens then youd almost have an entire second league of D1 FBS schools, which at that point would not be making near as much revenue as they probably already arent making too much and would thus maybe be obliged to partner up with nearby "MLB" teams, effectively becoming their AA affiliate in this analogy where schools would send their 3 stars that need to be developed to those schools with the understanding that they transfer there when they want or they can be "traded" for other prospects at other affiliate schools. That would effectively make it a Quasi MLB-NFL hybrid system and truly make it all minor league football.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 2:25 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:27 am to LSUGrad9295
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A pre-emptive strike by a Bama fan who will be pissed when Bama is left out of the playoff,
Alabama shite the bed. I'm pissed they shite the bed. The should rightfully be left out of the playoff. All they had to do was be relatively competitive in the biggest game of the year against a team they had already beaten and they couldn't manage that.
That doesn't change the fact that we currently have a system in place where a team could go undefeated in conference play and not have any chance to win their conference.
Think about the stupidity of that. Conferences are so insanely bloated that conference championships have become what the BCS once was.
It's perfectly realistic that you could have the 3 best teams in a massive conference all avoid each other, go undefeated, and someone isn't even in their conference championship game.
But yeah keep telling yourself this isn't a problem
Posted on 12/7/25 at 4:38 am to rolltide32
Playoffs: Top 8 ranked teams (by either committee, computer, etc) are IN.
Next 8 (teams 9 -16) play each other in “play-in” games - these games replace Conference Championships because those are irrelevant now and lead to all the problems noted elsewhere. But everyone wants the revenue, so these 4 games get played and revenue split some way to the conferences/ESPN etc.
Then you have the 12 team playoff. This way, we find out on the field if ND is better than Bama or Texas or Vandy or Tulane etc. while not making Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia play an extra game they don’t need to play.
Next 8 (teams 9 -16) play each other in “play-in” games - these games replace Conference Championships because those are irrelevant now and lead to all the problems noted elsewhere. But everyone wants the revenue, so these 4 games get played and revenue split some way to the conferences/ESPN etc.
Then you have the 12 team playoff. This way, we find out on the field if ND is better than Bama or Texas or Vandy or Tulane etc. while not making Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia play an extra game they don’t need to play.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:05 am to rolltide32
Return to either pre-1998 or 1998-2013. I prefer 1998-2013, but would take pre-1998 over this playoff garbage.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:12 am to rolltide32
*NIL cap
Restrictions on the transfer portal.
*Guys sign for a minimum 2 year period or face penalties if they bail early.
*Expand the playoffs and get rid of the out of date “who cares” bowls.
ETA- ditch conference championship games.
Restrictions on the transfer portal.
*Guys sign for a minimum 2 year period or face penalties if they bail early.
*Expand the playoffs and get rid of the out of date “who cares” bowls.
ETA- ditch conference championship games.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 7:16 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:17 am to The Tiger322
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8 team playoff, best teams get in regardless
The problem is that playoff expansion isn’t about getting the best teams in the playoff to have a chance to prove they are the best. It’s designed to get *more* teams and *cinderella* teams to the table. That, in turn, brings more eyeballs to the games and importantly, more casual fans who want to see an upset of one of the big dogs. It’s taking March Madness and applying it to football. It’s all about increasing the conversation and viewership in order to make more money. I don’t see playoffs ever shrinking in size.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:20 am to rolltide32
The answer is the BCS system but put the top 12 teams (per the computers) into a playoff. This is not hard if it weren’t all so corrupt.
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