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Another Trump win in Court - this time at DC Circuit

Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:02 am
Court upholds Donald Trump's power to fire some federal agency heads LINK

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A federal appeals court on Friday found President Trump can fire leaders at two independent agencies without cause, ruling their removal protections unconstitutional. 

The 2-1 panel on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said the restrictions on the president’s firing power at the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) and the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) violate the separation of powers




Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:08 am to
Hank and The1TrueTiger both assured me these firings were illegal
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:10 am to
SlowBoasbergPro will say this is wrong.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112468 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:26 am to
One of the most significant legacies of Trump's time in office will be the reestablishment of the separation of powers.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46149 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:35 am to
This wouldn't have even bren a matter of contention for Brandon or Hussein.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18699 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:37 am to
This is not a win.

When a judge and court accept an argument that is clearly in violation of the rights of the executive branch, there has to be some avenue to discipline or remove a judge.

The DOJ should sue for removal of this judge for violation of oath, there should be no need for impeachment proceedings. At least drag their arse through the process....again....and.....again.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:37 am to
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The1TrueTiger


One of the biggest shitbags on this site, regardless of the board that they are posting on.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:38 am to
sayonara CFPB?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112468 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

This is not a win.

When a judge and court accept an argument that is clearly in violation of the rights of the executive branch, there has to be some avenue to discipline or remove a judge.

The DOJ should sue for removal of this judge for violation of oath, there should be no need for impeachment proceedings. At least drag their arse through the process....again....and.....again


Agreed.

But you'll never see the Congressional GOP do this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465850 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:12 pm to
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One of the most significant legacies of Trump's time in office will be the reestablishment of the separation of powers.


A better description is stripping Congress of its power and consolidating federal power in the Executive

This is just supercharging the bureaucracy (commonly referred to as "the deep state")
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:13 pm to
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When a judge and court accept an argument that is clearly in violation of the rights of the executive branch, there has to be some avenue to discipline or remove a judge.


The judge was following Supreme Court precedent, aka the law.

The admin is seeking to reverse what our current law is. You want to punish courts for following the current state of the law.
Posted by nick__21
Member since Jan 2020
320 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:21 pm to
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A better description is stripping Congress of its power and consolidating federal power in the Executive


Congress gives its power away voluntarily. This is just a step towards restoring constitutional norms that were lost over the last 100 years. The constitution is very clear about executive power.

"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."

That's as clear as it gets.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465850 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Congress gives its power away voluntarily.

In this specific Case, Congress only gave away some power and the courts are taking more than what Congress ceded via statute.

quote:

"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."

That power is granted to the Executive by Congress. Whatever power there is to execute is supposed to be limited by what Congress creates.

This ruling strips Congress of its discretion (via statute).

These cases aren't the only attempt by the admin to strip Congress of its power, mind you. They're pushing the Unified Executive Theory HARD.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6115 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:39 pm to
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This wouldn't have even bren a matter of contention for Brandon or Hussein.

Correct - No GOPe would have dared to challenge a progressive POTUS' decision making authority. (But the GOPe will trip all over themselves to challenge / block DJTs authority)

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465850 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:45 pm to
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No GOPe would have dared to challenge a progressive POTUS' decision making authority

This isn't ta partisan issue, b/c the next DEM President will have this extra power, too.

Remember when this beautiful bastard would stand up against Obama?



That won't happen anymore. The next DEM President will stack the FCC with all DEMs
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:46 pm to
Awr slow mo is so upset
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62552 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:49 pm to
Silly this even became a case. If the executive can't fire people in the executive branch, who can?
Posted by nick__21
Member since Jan 2020
320 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 1:19 pm to
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That power is granted to the Executive by Congress


No it isn't. That is the power given to the President by the constitution, Article 2 powers. Congress's power comes from Article 1 of the constitution. Completely different. Any court powers (very limited) comes from Article 3.

Article 2 of the US constitution is very simple,

"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."

That's it. So clearly ALL executive power is in the hands of one man, by design of the constitution. Anything limiting that is unconstitutional and would need an amendment to change.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6115 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 1:38 pm to
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The next DEM President will stack the FCC with all DEMs

The FCC was stacked with dems.
The DC appeals court said it is OK for DJT to remove members stacked by dems at his own discretion.
This is real checks and balances.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 1:44 pm to
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SlowBoasbergPro will say


Where’s bamer mountain when you need it
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