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Income Tax
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:35 am
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:35 am
I heard Trump talk about doing away with the income tax due to the tremendous amounts of revenue taken in by the tariffs.
Do you think it will happen in your lifetime? I'm 53 and don't think it will happen in whatever time I have left. I wish it would, I could use an extra $25,000 (I know, OT poor)
Do you think it will happen in your lifetime? I'm 53 and don't think it will happen in whatever time I have left. I wish it would, I could use an extra $25,000 (I know, OT poor)
Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:00 pm to dek81572
A flat tax will happen before no tax.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:02 pm to dek81572
Free beer tomorrow?
While I agree with Trump’s reasonings on tariffs (unbalanced trade/treatment between countries, horrible labor practices, trying too get China to cooperate on fentanyl production), the revenues that will be brought in will not be anywhere close to offsetting income taxes.
So no. We will not be doing away with the income tax because of tariff revenues.
While I agree with Trump’s reasonings on tariffs (unbalanced trade/treatment between countries, horrible labor practices, trying too get China to cooperate on fentanyl production), the revenues that will be brought in will not be anywhere close to offsetting income taxes.
So no. We will not be doing away with the income tax because of tariff revenues.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:15 pm to TechBullDawg
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A flat tax will happen before no tax.
National sales tax. Get rid of penalizing people simply for working and instead collect on purchases. I’m sure they can do like a lot of states and exempt certain food purchases.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:39 pm to dek81572
Trump is the no income tax talk to get public support of his tariff policy. A boss move.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:53 pm to dek81572
The government would have to raise taxes on everything else to make up for the loss of the income tax. So, at best, it is a bait-and-switch tactic and a scam to impose additional burdens on the working class by offering exemptions for the elite, under the guise that it enables them to invest more in their companies. 
Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:55 pm to BuckI
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by offering exemptions for the elite
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:16 pm to dek81572
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Do you think it will happen in your lifetime
Never. FedGov is addicted to spending, there is never enough money for it to do what it wants. They will never give up a revenue source.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:50 pm to fwtex
quote:Tariffs are a tax on the working class. The elite and government do not need to worry about bad PR from breaks because they can push the entire cost down to the consumer.
Trump is the no income tax talk to get public support of his tariff policy. A boss move.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:52 pm to dek81572
You would have to dramatically reduce spending and introduce a non regressive flat tax to have even a shot at no income tax.
Trump hasn't said/done much to making either happen.
Trump hasn't said/done much to making either happen.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:54 pm to TechBullDawg
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flat tax
That doesn't change anything.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:55 pm to dek81572
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I heard Trump talk about doing away with the income tax due to the tremendous amounts of revenue taken in by the tariffs.
I heard Santa was real as a child. Then I grew up.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 2:04 pm to dek81572
I just want to pay 10% minus the first 50k of income.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 2:59 pm to dek81572
No it will never go away. Income tax serves to purposes: income redistribution and as a penalty for success. It’s not going to be removed because Democrats will never go along with that because removal would hurt their class resentment strategies.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 3:55 pm to dek81572
quote:No.
Do you think it will happen in your lifetime?
But we need a sales tax.
Just implement it to cover interest on the debt.
Nothing else. Just our annual debt borrowing costs.
The sales tax would float with cost of carry. If interest rates escalated, so would the tax. If rates declined, so would the % of sales tax. If debt ballooned , as it has over the past 20yrs, so would the sales tax.
It would educate the public as to the real costs being run up.
When our $40T debt inevitably settles at a ~4% C-of-C, or ~$1.5T/yr, the sales tax would be raised to cover it. With ~150M US households, the debt coverage sales tax would run around $10,000.00 per household ... per year.
See, I think that is a shared cost exposure that might actually effing wake people Up!
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