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Section 602(b) of the Afghan Allies Protection Act of 2009 (AAPA)

Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:46 am
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Section 602(b) of the Afghan Allies Protection Act of 2009 (AAPA),[1] created a new special immigrant category for Afghan nationals who worked for or on behalf of the U.S. government in Afghanistan. The President signed the AAPA into law on March 11, 2009.


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A. Number of Visas
The AAPA for Afghans who worked for or on behalf of the U.S. government initially provided for a limit of 1,500 immigrant visas for principal aliens for each fiscal year from 2009 through 2013. However, for each fiscal year from 2010 through 2013, the total number was increased by the difference between 1,500 and the number of visas actually used during the immediately prior fiscal year. For example, if the numerical limitation for fiscal year 2013 is not reached, any unused numbers from that year may be used in fiscal year 2014. Subsequently, the program has been extended multiple times and additional visas have been added.[2]


https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-6-part-h-chapter-9

It gets worse every time they amend it;

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DC) – Today, the Senate passed key provisions from the Afghan Allies Protection Act, a bill sponsored by U.S. Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), a senior member of the Senate Armed Services and Foreign Relations Committees, and Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA), as part of the supplemental security spending measure. Their legislation helps protect the Afghan civilians who risked their lives to support the U.S. mission in Afghanistan. Specifically, the measure would increase the number of authorized visas by 8,000, clear bureaucratic hurdles while maintaining the program’s integrity and improve the program’s efficiency ahead of the full withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan. Senators Roger Wicker (R-MS) and Dick Durbin (D-IL) were original cosponsors on the bill.


https://www.shaheen.senate.gov/news/press/breaking-senate-passes-shaheen-ernst-bill-to-protect-afghan-allies-through-siv-program-as-part-of-supplemental-spending-bill-
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:49 am to
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:58 am to
If this doesn’t clearly show people in Louisiana that the two RINO’s elected to represent us are NOT aligned with us, I don’t know what will. Foghorn Leghorn is great for entertainment, but at his core, he’s still a Democrat, and didn’t switch parties until running for statewide office, he’s just not nearly as far left as Cucksidy. More in the mold of a John Breaux.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:00 am to
That’s a list of professional dick suckers.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:08 am to
If we want people to change their allegiance from their home countries to America when we need the help, we owe them some protection. If anyone who helps US troops abroad will be identified and handed back to the countries they betrayed, we will never be able to recruit local help anywhere in the world.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4965 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:11 am to
Executive order that shite Mr. President.

Then hold Congressional republicans feet to the fire to get that shite revoked.
Posted by Bama Mountain
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:15 am to
Who signed the 2018 amendment and reauthorization?
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:50 am to
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f this doesn’t clearly show people in Louisiana that the two RINO’s elected to represent us are NOT aligned with us, I don’t know what will. Foghorn Leghorn is great for entertainment, but at his core, he’s still a Democrat, and didn’t switch parties until running for statewide office, he’s just not nearly as far left as Cucksidy. More in the mold of a John Breaux.
the problem isn't with the law, the intent, or the people who voted for it. It was designed to give promises to Afghans who helped us. Which I'm all for.

The problem was....
A) execution- to do that you have to do 'extreme vetting'
B) oversight- Congress, as usual, didn't provide adequate oversight to prevent abuse
C) abuse- because it wasn't being monitored everyone went crazy with it and wanted 'their Afghan' given protection. For open border Dims, that's EVERY Afghan.

Add to that our immigration is supposed to benefit our citizens. Part of that is assimilation. With the combo of handouts and open borders there is no consequence for any immigrant, legal or illegal, to not assimilate. This is the end result.

This guy worked for the CIA using a NGO as cover outside both the Afghan and US chain of command. He should have never been set loose without some monitoring and much more vetting. 'forced assimilation' is what should have happened here.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:55 am to
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It was designed to give promises to Afghans who helped us.


Life is hard.
It’s harder in Afghanistan.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7855 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:00 am to
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This guy worked for the CIA using a NGO as cover outside both the Afghan and US chain of command. He should have never been set loose without some monitoring and much more vetting. 'forced assimilation' is what should have happened here.


Great analysis, Goon. Do you think it's fair to criticize both the Biden and Trump Administration for this?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:01 am to
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Who signed the 2018 amendment and reauthorization?
The same guy that signed the reauthorization for government to continue spying on its citizens.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 10:04 am
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1430 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:11 am to
quote:

the problem isn't with the law, the intent, or the people who voted for it. It was designed to give promises to Afghans who helped us. Which I'm all for. The problem was....

A) execution- to do that you have to do 'extreme vetting'

B) oversight- Congress, as usual, didn't provide adequate oversight to prevent abuse

C) abuse- because it wasn't being monitored everyone went crazy with it and wanted 'their Afghan' given protection.
Fair.

Were there red flags which should have excluded this individual from either of the initial visa (Biden) or the subsequent grant of permanent asylum (Trump)?

I’m confident that those facts will be developed in the coming weeks.
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:11 am to
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Great analysis, Goon. Do you think it's fair to criticize both the Biden and Trump Administration for this?
yes. And Obama's admin, not to mention Bush.

It doesn't matter when he came in.

There was a law passed as part of a military strategy to transition to 'Afghans standing on their own two feet' in the field and in Kabul.

This was but one piece of it; but that law is so both the military and intel could make promises, legally, that Afghans working with us would be protected as well as rewarded.

The real fault is tCongress.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39394 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:18 am to
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The real fault is tCongress.



I just started another thread on this where it's obvious congress is to blame.

Scary how this flew under the radar of most of us. Now we have 200k potential terrorist running around the country.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1430 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:20 am to
Does responsibility lie with Congress for passing a statute which delegated to DHS the responsibility for vetting applicants, or with DHS for failing in its vetting obligations?

Or both?
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3327 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:27 am to
This is a valid and logical point. The problem is these arse hats put the policies in place and then move onto the next thing with no infrastructure in place to vet these people properly and “do it right.”

Allowing a mass number of people in that have no allegiance to the US other than an economic gift station isn’t the way to go.
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
18938 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:37 am to
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Were there red flags which should have excluded this individual from either of the initial visa (Biden) or the subsequent grant of permanent asylum (Trump)?
Trump admin. granting of asylum was based off of the Biden admin's lack of vetting in the chaotic withdrawal.

And yes, there's no denying that visa came from the withdrawal flood. He came less than a month after.

Because of the CIA cover using a NGO proper vetting, 'extreme vetting', required it to be done securely, i.e. by persons with clearance.

ETA: yes, he should have been flagged by US intel for 'extreme vetting'. He wasn't what's the point of secrecy when you use a highlighter to point out the secret. This is where Congress and the law they signed comes in. It neither provided a mechanism or requirement that intel can't slip him though the cracks just because he is intel's asset AND intel's assumption that he, and others, will always be loyal to the US. He is loyal, but to Biden era intel folks... not the US.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 10:44 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:50 am to
quote:

The real fault is tCongress.


Thanks, again.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1430 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:53 am to
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Trump admin. granting of asylum was based off of the Biden admin's lack of vetting in the chaotic withdrawal.
The assailant came to the United States in 2021 (Biden) on a valid visa
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there's no denying that visa came from the withdrawal flood. He came less than a month after.
His status was upgraded to “permanent asylum“ by the Trump DHS.

Why do so many posters simply not care about the facts?
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3575 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:59 am to
Unfortunately, in 2001 there weren't enough conservatives with the balls to tell Bush that we weren't going to put our army into Afghanistan.

That was the cause of the whole problem, Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz.
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