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Hegseth explains why “unlawful order” means something different inside the military
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:13 am
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If tweet fails to load, click here. The despicable video urging @DeptofWar troops to “refuse illegal orders” may seem harmless to civilians — but it carries a different weight inside the military.
This was a politically-motivated influence operation:
?? It never named a specific “illegal order.”
?? It created ambiguity rather than clarity.
?? It used carefully scripted, legal-sounding language.
?? It subtly reframed military obedience around partisan distrust instead of established legal processes.
In the military, vague rhetoric and ambiguity undermines trust, creates hesitation in the chain of command, and erodes cohesion.
The military already has clear procedures for handling unlawful orders. It does not need political actors injecting doubt into an already clear chain of command.
As veterans of various sorts, the Seditious Six knew exactly what they were doing — sowing doubt through a politically-motivated influence operation. The @DeptofWar won’t fall for it or stand for it.
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:15 am to Placekicker
Hegseth is overreacting and should have just not said anything.
SFP, probably
SFP, probably
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:16 am to Placekicker
That’s a great post.
It’s almost impossible to argue with although the SFPs of the world will try.
It’s almost impossible to argue with although the SFPs of the world will try.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:18 am to Placekicker
We already know Hegseth doesn’t like the rule of law.
He demoted the top JAGs within his first few days in office as secretary of defense.
When he was a national guard lieutenant in Iraq, his brigade commander ordered troops to kill “all military aged males” and then refused to testify on his soldiers’ behalf when 4 of them were court-martialed for murder.
So that’s his experience.
He demoted the top JAGs within his first few days in office as secretary of defense.
When he was a national guard lieutenant in Iraq, his brigade commander ordered troops to kill “all military aged males” and then refused to testify on his soldiers’ behalf when 4 of them were court-martialed for murder.
So that’s his experience.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:22 am to RFK
You are a fricking idiot.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:25 am to RFK
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So that’s his experience.
What the Seditious Six have done is to plant the seed. With every order, they are now going to think- “is this lawful?” “Am I going to get prosecuted for executing this order when the Dems get back into power?”
This will grind the military machine to a halt- effectively neutering the greatest military force on Earth.
And, to the Dems, any order that they don’t agree with is unlawful, regardless if it follows the Constitution or not.
This is very dangerous territory that we are entering.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:28 am to RFK
quote:
So that’s his experience.
Whats your's pencil pusher?
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:29 am to RFK
quote:
We already know Hegseth doesn’t like the rule of law. He demoted the top JAGs within his first few days in office as secretary of defense. When he was a national guard lieutenant in Iraq, his brigade commander ordered troops to kill “all military aged males” and then refused to testify on his soldiers’ behalf when 4 of them were court-martialed for murder. So that’s his experience.
^ camel-jockey propaganda.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:31 am to Placekicker
Yes yes we know it was wrong Pete. Anyone who isn’t complicit understands as much.
What America wants to understand is what you are going to do about it.
What America wants to understand is what you are going to do about it.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:35 am to Placekicker
quote:
?? It never named a specific “illegal order.”
?? It created ambiguity rather than clarity.
?? It used carefully scripted, legal-sounding language.
?? It subtly reframed military obedience around partisan distrust instead of established legal processes.
The simplest response to give to this is "Thank you for reminding our soldiers of their duty, Caption Obvious" and move on with your life. But because Kegseth is an insecure manchild, he goes nuclear with his response and turns it into a story.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:38 am to GoblinGuide
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and turns it into a story.
That shitty video was going nuclear regardless.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:40 am to GoblinGuide
Don’t you people ever get tired of pointing at the response to the problem as the issue rather than the problem itself?
It’s a trope, and it’s tiresome.
It’s a trope, and it’s tiresome.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:41 am to GoblinGuide
That's how I feel about Trump. Just say "I agree that illegal orders can be refused. What orders were illegal?" Maybe add something about how they were encouraging insubordination. It would have defused everything immediately. But, he had to go thermonuclear and here we are.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:42 am to RFK
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He demoted the top JAGs within his first few days in office as secretary of defense.
Zero chance they deserved it?
Also, I noticed you did not address his actual point. Why is that?
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:45 am to Placekicker
He is 100% correct. They did it to intentionally weaken the chain of command.
There are JAG officers who review the legality of orders every step of the way.
There are JAG officers who review the legality of orders every step of the way.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:47 am to Jbird
quote:
You are a fricking idiot.
That may be the understatement of the year!
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:12 am to ezride25
quote:
Don’t you people ever get tired of pointing at the response to the problem as the issue rather than the problem itself?
It’s a trope, and it’s tiresome.
Is "Don't follow illegal orders" a problem statement or just a very obvious one?
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:29 am to GoblinGuide
quote:So obvious it begs the question, why make it in the first place?
just a very obvious one
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:31 am to GoblinGuide
quote:
The simplest response to give to this is "Thank you for reminding our soldiers of their duty, Caption Obvious" and move on with your life. But because Kegseth is an insecure manchild, he goes nuclear with his response and turns it into a story.
WHy should those fricking scumbags get away with what they did?
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:33 am to udtiger
quote:Do you people ever stop to consider the extent to which SFP lives in your heads?
"Hegseth is overreacting and should have just not said anything." SFP, probably
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