Gayle just look at Sean Now

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Sean left because of Mickey Loomis, he knew he’d be in a bind with Mickey at the helm post Brees. Now Sean is excelling in Denver with an upper management team light years ahead of the Saints. Gayle the writing is on the wall, Mickey is your issue!

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anything else your feeble brain wants to make up and shite out?

Not even remotely true but if that makes you feel beter....

Mickey has Never Made personnel decisions, lol.

Y’all are on some shite.

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Mickey has Never Made personnel decisions, lol.

Y’all are on some shite.

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Someone has to be blamed

I really don't get this board.

The people here seem to have some football knowledge, but they refuse the place blame squarely on the common denominator that has overseen a horrid salary cap and not replacing top talent as it is lost to free agency, age, injuries and attrition. It is the GM's job to keep us competitive and hire the correct coach to work with toward success.

Then I see where people want to keep screaming about Sean Payton and how he left us flat. He told Mickey what to do. He called all the shots. He drafted whoever he wanted. On the whole, while the Saints coach, he was average at picking talent. He hit big on some and was horrible at picking others. As a coach, he was far too loyal to Brees in the final 2 years.

Payton has been gone 5 years now. He is off to greener pastures. The salary cap was a factor. Brees retiring, and him not coming close to finding a replacement, was a factor.

Truth is, Loomis is the longest tenured GM in the NFL by a country mile. He hired DA and the failure he was, as we continued to bleed out our best talent and sink lower into salary cap hell - AFTER PAYTON LEFT. Meaning, Loomis continued to spend like a drunken sailor despite the salary cap, long after Payton left. This makes the cap LOOMIS' BABY.

Do we have to discuss the fleecing we take in every trade we seem to make (minus Lattimore)? Giving away draft picks to trade up for guys that end up not even making the team or making zero positive impact. Loomis is not a leader. He does not make good decisions. He does not push back or play devils advocate with the coach. He is a doormat. We need a stronger leader at the top.

Where my confusion comes in is, I think most people that follow the Saints understand this, but yet I consistently see people defending Loomis as the GM. Basically giving him a full pass during the entire Payton era. It makes me wonder: Do people really think he is blameless because he is unfireable and have just accepted that there is nothing we can do, so they quit complaining about it? OR. Do people really think he is doing an outstanding job, he is just misunderstood in his position, and should be blamelessly left alone.

My point is, if the latter were true, then he should be a 1st ballot HOF as a GM. Given his tenure of longevity (20 years?), to stick around that long with 1 team, with a Super Bowl win. But I don't think ANYONE thinks that he is even remotely considered a Hall of Famer.

Arent we sick of the status quo?

Someone please explain this to me.

Ok… I see your statement.

Do you think that Mickey Loomis is somehow a Critical Asset to the Saints Organization ??

He’s right though. Loomis is a disaster and Sean is proving he wasnt just a beneficiary of a HoF QB.

Hated Loomis so much, he put a posion pill in his contract if Loomis ever was removed.

Makes a lot of sense.

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Sean left because of Mickey Loomis

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I don’t think that’s true.

Payton had total control.