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A reminder not to shoot a burglar if they are running away from your house

Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:04 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:04 pm




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A White Lake homeowner who police say shot at a group of young suspects breaking into his garage this past summer, killing one of them, is facing manslaughter and other felony charges.

Dayton Knapton, 24, was arraigned Nov. 7 in 52-2 District Court in Clarkston on charges of manslaughter, assault with intent to do great bodily harm, and two counts of felony firearm for the death of Sivan Wilson, 17, and the wounding of another individual related to the July incident, the Oakland County Prosecutor's Office said.

“The rights to own firearms and protect one's family and home are fundamental," Prosecutor Karen McDonald said in a press release. "Those important rights also come with profound responsibility. Our office worked closely with law enforcement to review the evidence, including the obvious mitigating factors, which led us to these charges."

Matthew Grinage, 21, as well as four juveniles have also been charged with breaking and entering for the attempted burglary of Knapton’s detached garage that led to the shooting, the prosecutor's office said.

According to the release, at about 1 a.m. on July 8, a group of suspects broke into Knapton's garage. "Knapton then left his house with a 9mm semiautomatic handgun and allegedly fired two shots into the garage through a windowless locked door," McDonald said in the release. "As the burglary suspects were fleeing, Knapton allegedly fired five more shots. He is then alleged to have gone back inside his house, reloaded the weapon, and returned outside."

Sivan Wilson fled the scene with the other suspects and reportedly was not taken for medical care for approximately 30 minutes, she continued, and died from a gunshot wound. Investigators concluded Wilson was struck by one of the bullets that Knapton fired through the locked door.

"We believe the evidence demonstrates this defendant crossed the line by firing outside his home at fleeing persons," McDonald said. "His actions not only took a life but potentially endangered the surrounding community by firing his weapon into the night.”


Manslaughter is punishable by up to 15 years in prison and/or a fine of $7,500. Assault with intent to do great bodily harm is punishable by up 10 years in prison and/or a $5,000 fine. Felony firearm is punishable by two years in prison, served consecutively. Breaking and entering is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.



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He shouldn't be charged as he hit the kid while they were inside. Firing as they ran off may have F'd him

This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17078 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:06 pm to
That lawsuit is not going anywhere.

Completely justified shooting.

...a good, clean kill.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12187 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:07 pm to
Am I counting SEVEN thieves in this man's garage?

The survivors need to be charged with the death.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178895 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:08 pm to
I found a better source and updated the OP.

He hit the person while they were in his garage. No charges should have been filed.

Still, firing as they ran off may have F'd him
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 5:16 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18668 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:08 pm to
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In the meantime, 21-year-old Matthew Grinage and four juveniles have each been charged with breaking and entering for the circumstances that preceded the shooting, McDonald said


Why are they not charged with felony murder?
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
2285 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Firing as they ran off may have F'd him




They should have never been on his property.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Still, firing as they ran off may have F'd him


Maybe he was firing in the air to convince them to keep running... that's what my story would be.
Posted by TheGeauxt9
South Louisiana
Member since May 2021
282 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:09 pm to
I mean FAFO, but the law has a thin line between self defense and manslaughter. I am definitely not taking up for the POS kid, but you just have to be smart in situations like this according to the law and police response, hope the guy gets a reasonable or least amount of penalty if he is found guilty. To his defense, adrenaline running high, I cannot fully blame the dude for his actions
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:11 pm to
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POS kid,


Seven adult sized males vs one homeowner.

This is not some "poor, dumb kid" story.

He should have slayed all their asses.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
79583 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:11 pm to
Drag the body into the house before you call the cops.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178895 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

They should have never been on his property.


I agree

Hopefully a jury lets him off
Posted by TheGeauxt9
South Louisiana
Member since May 2021
282 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:12 pm to
Taking your word there, air them MFers out
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
3306 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:13 pm to
Prosecutor Karen…
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22672 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Drag the body into the house before you call the cops.

This is the advice an NOPD captain gave me.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17413 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:16 pm to
Only place that is acceptable is in Texas. The Castle doctrine.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:16 pm to
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homeowner who police say shot at a group of young suspects breaking into his garage


Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12431 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:17 pm to
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He shouldn't be charged as he hit the kid while they were inside. Firing as they ran off may have F'd him


From what I've been taught in CCP class you need life or death situations in order to engage. While they were in his garage he was not in immediate danger. If they would have entered his house that is a different situation. Basically you have to satisfy two things in order to know you are on good ground. One, is it legal to engage and two, is this something a rational person would do.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31139 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:17 pm to
Were any of the thugs armed?

How would the homeowner know?

Man has a right to protect himself, his family, and his property.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17413 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:18 pm to
Indeed
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5896 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:18 pm to
Well in Louisiana you can’t kill someone over property. Has to be death or great bodily harm. Now if he went out there and they came at him? Yes, blow them away.
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