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SIAP - "FAA grounds all MD-11s" (or... "Order Your Christmas Presents Now")
Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:38 pm
Went back to the 3rd page, didn't see this mentioned.
MD-11s aren't used for passenger airlines any longer, but they are used for freight. They make up about 4% of FedEx's fleet and ~9% of UPS'. Such groundings by model seem to last at least a month.
UPS' main hub in Louisville and FedEx's main hub in Memphis are both on the list for reduced flights due to the shutdown.
I'm guessing trucking and trains are going to be picking up some extra business until this all sorts out. Market is probably going to be fricked on Monday.
MD-11s aren't used for passenger airlines any longer, but they are used for freight. They make up about 4% of FedEx's fleet and ~9% of UPS'. Such groundings by model seem to last at least a month.
UPS' main hub in Louisville and FedEx's main hub in Memphis are both on the list for reduced flights due to the shutdown.
I'm guessing trucking and trains are going to be picking up some extra business until this all sorts out. Market is probably going to be fricked on Monday.
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:21 pm to Bard
Oh nos!
My kid won’t get their 20 presents or me my 2 lb beef log for Christmas!
I would get 1 or 2 toys for Christmas when I grew up. Today’s kids have a toy store explosion under the tree.
In other words, people are so spoiled and weak nowadays.
My kid won’t get their 20 presents or me my 2 lb beef log for Christmas!
I would get 1 or 2 toys for Christmas when I grew up. Today’s kids have a toy store explosion under the tree.
In other words, people are so spoiled and weak nowadays.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:30 pm to UptownJoeBrown
Boomer
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:44 pm to Bard
I don’t think it was the FAA but the carriers out of an abundance of caution.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:59 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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I don’t think it was the FAA but the carriers out of an abundance of caution.
Nope, it was the FAA LINK
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The Federal Aviation Administration on Saturday ordered MD-11 and MD-11F aircrafts to be grounded as authorities investigate the deadly UPS plane crash in Kentucky.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:22 pm to Bard
Trucks and trains to Hawaii are better than crypto!
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:32 pm to Bard
Problem is more likely the engine which is also on 767s and some other planes
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:01 pm to Bard
What about the military KC 10?
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:03 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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What about the military KC 10?
AI says it's retired.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:25 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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I would get 1 or 2 toys for Christmas when I grew up.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:36 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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I would get 1 or 2 toys for Christmas when I grew up
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My kid won’t get their 20 presents
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In other words, people are so spoiled and weak nowadays.
Including you apparently. Thanks for adding to that.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:13 am to Bard
Well if I'm FED Ex and UPS, I'd find a way to add that 4% and 9% cargo to other flights. Max out that cargo volume and weight. I'm no expert, but I can't see those cargo planes flying at 100% efficiency prior to the stoppage, but I don't know a thing.
ETA, Maybe cargo volume and weight isn't the issue, but timing of flights is the issue. If this is the case, I guess some packages may be on the next flight and overnight delivery becomes next day. Either way, they'll probably adjust pricing to discourage immediate delivery and encourage next day or 3 day delivery, if timing iss the issue.
Kids just need a football, BB gun, and bicycle anyway. Oh, and rocks, lots of rocks.
ETA, Maybe cargo volume and weight isn't the issue, but timing of flights is the issue. If this is the case, I guess some packages may be on the next flight and overnight delivery becomes next day. Either way, they'll probably adjust pricing to discourage immediate delivery and encourage next day or 3 day delivery, if timing iss the issue.
Kids just need a football, BB gun, and bicycle anyway. Oh, and rocks, lots of rocks.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 5:33 am
Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:16 am to Rooski
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Trucks and trains to Hawaii
Biden never started that rail line across the Indian ocean. Maybe they can change it to Hawaii.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:00 am to Bard
If UPS isn’t already shitting their pants over the investigation of the crash and possible maintenance reasons for it…they are now with approx 10 percent of their fleet grounded.
You didn’t just ground those planes, the pilots are with them. Unless they are also certified on their other jets as well.
You didn’t just ground those planes, the pilots are with them. Unless they are also certified on their other jets as well.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:01 am to UptownJoeBrown
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me my 2 lb beef log for Christmas!
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:02 am to Bard
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SIAP - "FAA grounds all MD-11s" (or... "Order Your Christmas Presents Now")
Or…..buy locally. You can do it. May have to be creative, but you can do it.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:04 am to Victor R Franko
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Well if I'm FED Ex and UPS, I'd find a way to add that 4% and 9% cargo to other flights.
It’s not that easy. Fed ex departing Memphis and UPS departing Louisville has a specific destination. There aren’t any stops and then a destination. It would make the packages for the destination incredibly late. Maybe for New York, Chicago, and LA (etc) only it could work with some logistics work, But packages for most of the country, and the world, are on one flight.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 8:24 am
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