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What to do with a small retirement pension.

Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4961 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:44 pm
Situation:

I have access to 30k from a state retirement plan.

I can cash out and pay a penalty/tax. Don't need the money so not doing that.

Would get 1k a month starting in 25 years.

Or

I can roll the 30k into an IRA/Roth IRA of my choice.
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3247 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:47 pm to
Keep it with the state. You never know if you ever decide to return
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
50324 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I can roll the 30k into an IRA/Roth IRA of my choice.


Why not just roll it over to your current plan.

Obviously avoid the Roth conversion unless you are prepared to pay the taxes
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57614 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:17 pm to
Do you think you'll ever go back?

If so, start a Roth (if you don't already have one) and fund it (to at least whatever matching you may get from your new employer) until you go back to the State (and then fund both even if you aren't able to max your Roth donations).

If you think there's a very good chance you won't go back, go ahead and roll it over.

If you do a direct rollover into a Roth, your rollover amount is going to be taxed at the same level as your income, so you'll probably want to roll it over sooner rather than later. Most people's incomes grow over time and job jumps (especially from the state to private sector) are for greater pay.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
1946 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:57 pm to
How many years before you think you'll retire? It's kinda important.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4961 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:06 pm to
About 25 years.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4961 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:06 pm to
Odds of me going back are super low.
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2110 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:17 pm to
I’d just leave it alone and get $1k meh when you retire
Posted by Jaspermac
Texas
Member since Aug 2018
491 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:47 am to
Will your wife be able to get the $1,000 if something happens to you first?

I want my wife to get income and not accounts full of Ira money
Posted by GrapevineTigah
Grapevine, Texas
Member since Dec 2003
45 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:47 am to
My math and assumptions need to be checked, but I would think about it like this: 30k now or 12k a year in 25 years? I use the 4% assumption quite a lot, ignoring the current lower interest rate bias to address the hypothetical question. That means you'll have $1200 of income (4% of 30k) now vs $12000 income (1k a month) in 25 years. So another way of phrasing the question is would you think an IRA could be used to grow that 30k by ten times in 25 years? Many projections show SP500 growth of 5 to 7% over the next 10 years. So assuming 6% growth your 30k would double every 12 years (rule of 72). In 24 years at the same rate your 30k invested in the SP500 in an IRA would be a little over $120k. That would only earn you $4800 a year in income. I'd go with the state retirement plan if the 1k a month in 25 years is real.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88540 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:41 am to
quote:

In 24 years at the same rate your 30k invested in the SP500 in an IRA would be a little over $120k. That would only earn you $4800 a year in income. I'd go with the state retirement plan if the 1k a month in 25 years is real.


That math checks out, but if he drops dead 25 years and one month from now, there will be next to nothing left to pass on from the state pension (I know there would be some lump sum available for a death that early, but it would be tiny).
Posted by GrapevineTigah
Grapevine, Texas
Member since Dec 2003
45 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:59 am to
You're right. The likelihood of passing away early needs to be considered, along with whether or not a spouse would get death benefits. That is also a situation where the "reality" of 1k a month benefits needs to be considered. Maybe the benefits are less for a surviving spouse. I'm getting a pension where I took less for the survivor benefits case. If the OP's parents lived to be 100 or passed away in their 50's that may matter too.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4961 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Will your wife be able to get the $1,000 if something happens to you first?

I want my wife to get income and not accounts full of Ira money


Will look into this but think it stops upon my death.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2928 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:18 am to
There are likely a list of options on payout. Some offer payments to spouse after your death, and some don't.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
1946 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:34 pm to
Imho I think this is an easy one. Put it in a Roth IRA. I suggest a retirement fund based on year 2050. Something similar to a Fidelity Freedom 2050 fund. Easy to assume the fund would average 9% annually, easy. This means the value of the 30K will double every 8 years. So, after 24 years the 30K would be worth about 250K.
To receive 12K/yr as is the other option, this is the equivalent of 150K principle earning 9%.
In addition, withdrawls from the Roth will be tax free. The 1K payment will be taxable.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4961 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

Imho I think this is an easy one. Put it in a Roth IRA. I suggest a retirement fund based on year 2050. Something similar to a Fidelity Freedom 2050 fund. Easy to assume the fund would average 9% annually, easy. This means the value of the 30K will double every 8 years. So, after 24 years the 30K would be worth about 250K.
To receive 12K/yr as is the other option, this is the equivalent of 150K principle earning 9%.
In addition, withdrawls from the Roth will be tax free. The 1K payment will be taxable.


I doubt a target fund would make 9%

Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
1946 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 5:38 am to
Well if you're an active investor, by all means go for it. I assumed that you might be a more hands off type investor.

FYI, Fidelity Freedom Fund 2030 (FFFEX) which is approaching retirement age has a current10 year annual return of 8.52% .
Freedom Fund 2050 (FFFHX) currently has a 10 year return of 10.85%.

Check out their glide paths. The expense is a little higher, and sometimes Vanguard betters them with less expense. My experience is so little difference it's not worth having multiple accounts or similar investments.

Good Luck!
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2928 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:09 am to
I am not a fan of age targeted funds. It doesn't take much effort to beat them as far as returns, and their expense ratios are too high. If OP wants a fairly hands-off approach, the major low cost indexes will get him higher returns and lower expense ratios. He could make a few conservative changes as he gets closer to using any of the money to simulate the age based rebalancing.
Posted by GrapevineTigah
Grapevine, Texas
Member since Dec 2003
45 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:29 am to
Fidelity shows a 7.24% return for the life of FFFEX, with higher recent returns. The question should (for retirement planning purposes) be what are the expectations moving forward? I wouldn't expect to match that return (in a target fund or otherwise) as the last 10 years have been historically good for the stock market.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
43936 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Will look into this but think it stops upon my death.


you will have options, you make the decision around 6 months before you start drawing the pension
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