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Incentive based contracts without huge buyouts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:02 pm
Really think this is the direction eventually it will all go towards. However, it hasn't gotten to that point yet. Do we dare be the first major program to emphasize and go this route? If we do then my thoughts are you can rule out most if not all of the big name coaches. why would they take it when they are being guaranteed big dollars at other schools. Think only a young up and comer that would be greatly increasing the guaranteed portion of their pay along with having opportunity for much more would go for that type of deal right now.
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:10 pm to Portcityblues
You can start it, but free market says it won’t stay. The minute another school comes calling everything changes. I understand what he is saying, but the market is what the highest bidder will offer both in years and monetary guarantees.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:10 pm to Portcityblues
LSU can create a blueprint for this and others will follow.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:17 pm to CalTiger53
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LSU can create a blueprint for this and others will follow.
maybe they will follow.
or maybe they will say "we can hire that guy over LSU by tossing together this guaranteed money deal"
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:17 pm to CalTiger53
Ken Burns on SEC network had a ideal blueprint for the contracts moving forward. Large upfront bonus then base yearly salary and incentives for each win, conf championship, playoff birth, National Championship etc
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:33 pm to Portcityblues
If I was said coach and someone was offering me an incentive based deal vs a guranteed deal. Why on earth would Insign an incentive based deal. If you want to go all the way down to tier 3 to find a coach sure this is the way
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:39 pm to CalTiger53
Arkansas tried it, and Kiffin and Leach took other SEC jobs they ended up with Sam Pittman.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:22 pm to Nutriaitch
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or maybe they will say "we can hire that guy over LSU by tossing together this guaranteed money deal
That is fine, LSU, FSU, USC, PSU, Fla .....all followed the guaranteed model and failed. To me a coach who wants guaranteed money is an alarm bell.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:51 pm to Portcityblues
Then you will have to target up and coming coaches. No one making at least 7 mill with a sizeable buyout is going to go for this.
You can dream all you want about Kiffin, if you are not pinyin up at least as much as Kelly got per year on the contract he's staying put.
You can dream all you want about Kiffin, if you are not pinyin up at least as much as Kelly got per year on the contract he's staying put.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:54 pm to TigerintheNO
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Arkansas tried it, and Kiffin and Leach took other SEC jobs they ended up with Sam Pittman.
Arkansas couldn't attract Kiffin and Leach for reasons other than incentive laden contracts like a lack of monetary investment in the football program overall.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:56 pm to KiwiHead
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Then you will have to target up and coming coaches. No one making at least 7 mill with a sizeable buyout is going to go for this.
You can dream all you want about Kiffin, if you are not pinyin up at least as much as Kelly got per year on the contract he's staying put.
F Kiffin! Kiffin isn't the only good coach out here. I see why Woodward has been able to bullshite his way to a lucrative career. It's b/c most of you are dumb! Cignetti isn't the only coach from the group of five who can coach successfully at this level.
Furthermore, Elko, Freeze, and Brohm all have incentive laden contracts.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:59 pm to Portcityblues
Why is a TV personality ,Peter Burns, coming up with this contract and not our Friggin AD??
4 Year Deal w/ Incentives
$10M Signing Bonus on Day 1
$1M Salary Per Year
$500K Per Win
$5 Million for CFB Playoff spot
$2 Million Per Playoff win/Bye
$3 Million Per Title
$10 M Buyout
4 Year Deal w/ Incentives
$10M Signing Bonus on Day 1
$1M Salary Per Year
$500K Per Win
$5 Million for CFB Playoff spot
$2 Million Per Playoff win/Bye
$3 Million Per Title
$10 M Buyout
Posted on 10/30/25 at 3:14 pm to ScotlandAve
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Arkansas couldn't attract Kiffin and Leach for reasons other than incentive laden contracts like a lack of monetary investment in the football program overall.
You think Miss State spends more on football than Arkansas?
Posted on 10/30/25 at 3:36 pm to brennans flip flops
quote:Correct. One of your players may tear an ACL on first play, another may harbor a fugitive in his dorm room. There are too many factors that influence success. I am not sure incentives wont play a part, but I think the length of the contract is the biggest thing to correct at this time. No one should be guaranteed for 10 years. Again, too many things can happen.
If I was said coach and someone was offering me an incentive based deal vs a guranteed deal. Why on earth would Insign an incentive based deal. If you want to go all the way down to tier 3 to find a coach sure this is the way
Posted on 10/30/25 at 3:51 pm to Blueghost1978
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Why is a TV personality ,Peter Burns, coming up with this contract and not our Friggin AD??
Maybe there's a reason why Peter Burns is a TV Personality and Woodward is an AD.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 3:55 pm to TigerintheNO
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You think Miss State spends more on football than Arkansas?
I think MSU spends smarter than Arky. Lebby always had more upside than Pittman.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:08 pm to JRtiger75
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Ken Burns on SEC network had a ideal blueprint for the contracts moving forward.
He did?
As far as Peter Burns goes, there's a reason he's never been an AD at a P5 school.
Or a Group of 5 school.
Or a high school.
Or a neighborhood block captain.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:31 pm to ScotlandAve
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Lebby always had more upside than Pittman.
He was hired 4 years after PittmanPosted on 10/30/25 at 5:01 pm to tigerfoot
I agree make it six years
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