Trying to wrap my head around the possibility of Woodward getting canned

Why would I live to regret it?? I’m not making the decision either way.

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And Woodward made it happen.

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No cookies bubba. Our men’s team is in the shitter and you’re hanging your hat on that. Sad.

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He hired jay johnson. Mulkey wanted to come. He hired jimbo and Brian Kelly two all time failures

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Lest we conveniently forget, Jimbo was high on our radar prior to A&M getting him, and Woodward was not at A&M when Jimbo received that outlandish raise/extension because he was at LSU, and A&M feared LSU getting him. Neither Jimbo, nor Kelly were anything but high profile accomplished coaches 4 years ago. It’s only now that they both shite the bed that we see all of this in a different light.

I don’t think I like Woodward personally, and I was very ready for Kelly to get fired, but I cannot say that I thought it was a bad idea at the time.

At the time Kelly was hired from Notre Dame, he was the winningest active coach in the country not named Nick Saban. We “stole“ him from Notre Dame while they were in the playoff picture and having a very good season. It looked right at the time and I am not a hypocrite. So I can’t blame Woodward for hiring Kelly

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No cookies bubba. Our men’s team is in the shitter and you’re hanging your hat on that. Sad.

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You can’t hang the bad hires around his neck like an albatross and then take credit from him for the good ones. That’s not how that works.

It doesn’t matter if Mulkey was already running from Baylor back to Louisiana (she wasn’t in her own words) or if Jay Johnson would’ve crawled on hot coals 100 miles to get the LSU job — Woodward hired them.


Woodward went bold on Kelly which at the time was a seismic hire; and Woodward made a decision he thought best to insulate LSU from NCAA fallout in basketball.

One for sure didn’t work out and it’s likely we’ll be making a change at the other soon. Oh well, it happens and no AD bats a hundred on hires.

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I don’t think Woodward is going to get fired, and he probably shouldn’t be. This board isn’t exactly the epitome of rationality.

Yes, an AD’s job is to hire coaches, but the responsibility goes far beyond that.

And let’s not forget, he only offered a contract the BoS told him they’d approve (and they did).

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Fair or not, Woodward is held responsible for Kelly. Yes, I'm sure he had a directive from the donors to land a big time HC (that's who really calls the shots, not the BOS). But they gave him the autonomy to find that guy. 3.5 years later they are paying a huge bill to get rid of that guy. Point being, they don't trust Woodward anymore to find the "right" guy. Then you throw in the fact the basketball program, which should be LSU's second biggest profit generator, has been the worst in the conference for the last 3 seasons, leading to what is likely going to be another need/request to pay a buyout and find a new HC.

Additionally, the LSU admin landscape looks much different than when BK was hired. Landry wasn't Governor and his BOS selections weren't present then. Now you have a Governor who wants to, very publicly, remake LSU with HIS own people. That's why you will see the McNeese president soon become the LSU president. And the Governor wants to help bring in a big football hire so he can tout in inner circles (and likely outer too) how he was the savior of LSU football.

Believe me if you want, but last spring there was a strong push by SW LA Landry donors to get Will Wade back to LSU. The Governor was involved because he wanted the publicity/credit if it happened. The LSU admin shut down the push. That's in part (though not totally) why LSU is looking for a new president. He didn't just serve as a "yes man". The expectation is the new president will, and if Woodward is seen as an impediment to the big Landry donors in getting their way, they will get Woodward out of the way too and bring in someone who will do their bidding.

Letting Will Wade go was his biggest blunder. Not sure that was even his choice. Everyone thought BK was a good hire at the time. i dont fault him for that. Nobody knew BK would mail it in and play golf every day.
Woodward is a good fund raiser, and he was able to find a booster to buy out BK. So he cleaned up his mess before it got too bad unlike the prior AD that let Miles hang around about 2 seasons longer than he should have.
So why is everyone pissed at Woodward? He brought in Jay and Mulkey (3 championships), and showed BK the door as soon as things became obvious that football was sinking. I think he's actually done pretty well other than the basketball hire. (That also brings up an interesting topic...if he's this quick to fire BK, how much time does McMahon have left ?)

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He hired jimbo and Brian Kelly two all time failures

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All time failures? Jimbo was successful but not great his first few years at A&M. Same with Brian Kelly, started off with two 10-win seasons. Neither is hardly an all-time failure.

I'm not necessarily a Woodward fan, but the decisions weren't terrible....10 years fully guaranteed however is another story.

He’s out