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Charles Turner has his say on Coach Brian Kelly

Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:18 am
Posted by totospumpernickel
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:18 am
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15092 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:23 am to
Sounds like Charles was not in "alignment"
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18296 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:36 am to
Does anyone really feel like he was all in on this job as far as work ethic?
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3618 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:38 am to
I think I know why we've been losing.

Kelly apparently built a roster full of attention needing puppies instead of junkyard dogs.
Posted by BigC LSU
Pittsburgh
Member since Oct 2025
492 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:44 am to
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Kelly apparently built a roster full of attention needing puppies instead of junkyard dogs
Its an important part of coaching.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49636 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:10 am to
He didn’t know any players
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:55 am to
quote:

Does anyone really feel like he was all in on this job as far as work ethic?


My honest opinion is that he just isn't a people person. Some people are like that. Sometimes, I won't talk to you unless you approach me and talk to me. Then we can shoot the shite for hours. People think I'm stuck up, that's not it. Sometimes I'm fine jist being with my thoughts and I have to make myself try to engage in conversation out of nowhere.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51461 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:58 am to
quote:

Kelly apparently built a roster full of attention needing puppies instead of junkyard dogs.

I’ve managed a ton of people. A personal relationship is absolutely necessary for building culture and team chemistry. In an organization as small as a college football team, this cannot be delegated by the CEO/HC the way it must be in General Electric or Amazon. The HC should know the guy washing the uniforms, and that guy should be telling his family what a great guy the HC is.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 3:24 am
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15773 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:36 am to
This all kind of makes sense considering the Sloan promotion due to Underwood, and keeping the affable-but-incompetent Brad Davis too long. They were the ones actually developing relationships with the players, not Kelly.

It may also explain how Kelly could easily fire his ND DC Brian Vangorder, who stood in Kelly's wedding. It was the right move, cuz Vangorder was Matt-House-level bad, but I'm speaking to the coldness it takes for someone to do it without a fight. Relationships apparently aren't real or strong.

Posted by LSU817
Member since Mar 2023
108 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:44 am to
I don’t think people realize how big that is for players, he wanted these guys to do everything they can for him but he couldn’t do the little things
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
2277 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:47 am to
Maybe he can’t relate to people in the south. Maybe this impersonal methodical way of doing business works in the North?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48234 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:56 am to
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Maybe he can’t relate to people in the south. Maybe this impersonal methodical way of doing business works in the North?

Bingo! He was a New Englander from Boston coaching SEC football at LSU. It was possibly the worst HC fit in college football history.
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Your mom’s house
Member since Dec 2020
2725 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:00 am to
Fit had nothing to do with it. The mistakes of hiring Matt House and those on field defensive coaches and then promoting Sloan when Denbrock left had everything to do with it.
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1097 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:02 am to
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Kelly apparently built a roster full of attention needing puppies instead of junkyard dogs.

Seriously, that's your take on Turner's statement?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22349 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:06 am to
Yep that was the true failure. BK had a stunningly bad record at hiring coaches.

His first defensive unit was mocked for being so bad and it turned out they sucked. Then everyone questioned Sloan and well he sucked
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10533 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:21 am to
From too much a players' coach (Orgeron) to too much a CEO. Wild.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16097 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:27 am to
quote:

"alignment"


tBinder >>> mUh aLiGnMeNt
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45478 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:52 am to
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My honest opinion is that he just isn't a people person. Some people are like that. Sometimes, I won't talk to you unless you approach me and talk to me. Then we can shoot the shite for hours. People think I'm stuck up, that's not it. Sometimes I'm fine jist being with my thoughts and I have to make myself try to engage in conversation out of nowhere.


How do you know your players if you don’t engage & care for them?

It’s idiotic on his part and even more idiotic we paid him $100mm
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3663 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:55 am to
That’s fine to have that personality…but that shite ain’t gonna work with 18-22 YO kids needing guidance, coaching and attention.

Literally part of your job as a CFB head coach. What a farce he was.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5420 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:13 am to
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Its an important part of coaching.


…and life in general.
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